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Old May 24th, 2007, 03:28 PM   #1
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They are going to spend two months debating another "non-binding" resolution.
This time to urge the oil companies to temporarily reduce their profits.
And, set an artificial deadline for the oil compnanies to report back to them in December.
This way, they can report to their constituents they have done "something" about the price of gas at the pump.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 06:48 PM   #2
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just great.

suck balls, big time.
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Old June 4th, 2007, 01:12 AM   #3
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Of course, the .gov could always take some initiative and lower the taxes and cut THEIR profits on someone else's product.

I'd love to see a calculation on how much on the price of a gallon goes to the oil companies, the government (state, local, and fed combined) , the station, and the country that pumped it out in the first place.

I'd wager that all taxes/fees combined the .gov makes only slightly less than the oil company.
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Old June 4th, 2007, 11:48 AM   #4
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Of course, the .gov could always take some initiative and lower the taxes and cut THEIR profits on someone else's product.

I'd love to see a calculation on how much on the price of a gallon goes to the oil companies, the government (state, local, and fed combined) , the station, and the country that pumped it out in the first place.

I'd wager that all taxes/fees combined the .gov makes only slightly less than the oil company.
The government is taking a lot more than the oil companies.

Here's the data according the the API......

http://www.api.org/statistics/fuelta...ry_pages_2.pdf

National average is 45.8 cents per gallon in taxes.

Oil companies make about 7.4 cents per gallon of gas.

http://www.api.org/statistics/earnin...B_EARNINGS.pdf

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Old June 5th, 2007, 11:13 AM   #5
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I thought I heard that Michigan's tax on gas was close to 60 cents. Then take the tax on cigs which is like for every pack purchased we are paying the Gov. for an extra pack. I know what the basic reasoning is but still, we have one of the worst unemployment rates in the US, Our Schools are among the bottom of the list. What the hell is going on here?

Granholm has done nothing in my oppinion. My dad is a teacher and I know not everyone has kids, but it is hard to argue that education isn't important, yet almost every day there are talks of cutting more funding for education, or another shool is closing do to the decrease in funds. Last fall we had a chance to do something about our school funding problem but it was shot down. Man that was like putting one more nail in the coffin for the future of Michigan. People argue that the profits from the state lotterys go to schools and yes they do. But when the State gives their initial budget for schools for the year, then half way thru the year they release their actual numbers it has typically decreased every year. Instead of the lottery profits being added to the Gov's budget, the funding is decreased relative to amount of lottery money.

My kids don't even have books to bring home to study from. They get these damn dittos with no explination to do for homework. Half the time I can't even figure out what the objective is.

Lastly, I have a handicapped daughter that is restricted to a wheelchair. Her school had a 3rd grade field trip to the zoo in Lansing. We got a call from the school telling us that we would have to drive her to the zoo because they weren't going to be taking a bus with a lift. If we couldn't she would either have to stay behind at school or she could just stay home for the day. The reason was cost, and the busses with lifts have less seats, which instead of taking three busses they would have to take four. So my daughter was going to be excluded. I pay taxes and have pretty hefty property taxes as well. I'm not looking for handouts but this is what our state of affairs has come to.

The other thing is there building these Damn mobile home parks and packing in as many homes as possible. More people, more students and they are excluded from paying those taxes. The owners of the parks pay in for the taxes but it isn't equivalent to what a home owner like myself and many others who are barley staying above water have to pay.

I'm thinking of heading to the hills and just living like our ancestors did. Off the land, and screw the rat race and all the bull! And Giving all the political whores the two finger salute!

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Schools can only take so much of a cut. I think they are going to have to increase taxes somewhere to pay for it. The problem is, budgeting the money properly.
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Our Schools are among the bottom of the list. What
No, our school funding and teacher's pay are very low, but the results are very good. We have some damn good teachers and schools in our state. Our state scores above the national average in just about everything.

ACT
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Now they changed how they test now so some of the numbers don't jive from 2005 to 2006 but we are still doing very well.

Example, grade 8 math has been steadily going up since 2002.

National average on the ACT for 2005 was 20.9
Michigan's average was 21.4

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We had far more students taking the test than the national average. This year...everyone took the Michigan Merit Test test in Michigan. Very few states do this...it drops their average if they test the bottom of the barrel kids. That's how Japan can say they have higher scores....they only test 16.1% of their high school students. In 2005 Michigan tested over 69% of their students...and 100% in 2007.
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