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Symmes · February 12th, 2006, 08:42 PM

On my 95 tahoe if i was to crank the torsion bars to fit 285s will it ruin them or is it fine?thanks
jake

nixxerRsixxer · February 12th, 2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Symmes

On my 95 tahoe if i was to crank the torsion bars to fit 285s will it ruin them or is it fine?thanks
jake

front end will be stiffer.. most people dont mind.. had a friend with cranked torsion bars and 3" BL that ran 315s (35s) on his chebby..

Symmes · February 12th, 2006, 09:53 PM

Ok it will be stiffer but will the parts go bad a lot faster?
thansk
jake

Mclovin · February 13th, 2006, 01:27 AM

Yes front end wear will increase.. ball joint angles get more sevre which causes them to wear out a lil quicker... as well as tie rod ends etc.. Also this will increase the wear on the bars themselves... Oh and your alignment, good luck getting that all within spec.. so your tires will more than likely wear at a tapper...

KILLER"B"468 · February 13th, 2006, 09:59 AM

you can put 3/4 ton torsion bars in there and not have to adjust them as much. They can be a pain to remove but they won't sag as quickly.

Symmes · February 13th, 2006, 01:41 PM

Ok i dont really want the added wear on the fron end does anybody know of anyother really cheep ways to lift it so that i could run 285s. thanks a lot
jake

Mclovin · February 13th, 2006, 02:19 PM

Nothing that wont throw your front suspension geometry off... the only PROPER way to lift an IFS is with drop bracketry.. and for the price of an IFS lift kit you could swap a dana 44 under the front end with leaf springs..

brewmenn · February 13th, 2006, 09:23 PM

I know of no reason why it would cause anything bad to happen to the otrsion bars. You will have the same weight on the same bar. Your only changing the ride height, the loading is the same.

But it can cause other things to wear faster since they're not at the optimal running condition any more.

nixxerRsixxer · February 13th, 2006, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Muddinguy

Nothing that wont throw your front suspension geometry off... the only PROPER way to lift an IFS is with drop bracketry.. and for the price of an IFS lift kit you could swap a dana 44 under the front end with leaf springs..

only proper way?

i say the proper way is pull off the IFS and install a straight axle :/ ..

Mclovin · February 14th, 2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nyxis

only proper way?

i say the proper way is pull off the IFS and install a straight axle :/ ..

I said "proper way to lift an IFS" Not "proper way to lift a tahoe" :tonka:

GMCsonoma94 · February 14th, 2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by brewmenn

I know of no reason why it would cause anything bad to happen to the otrsion bars. You will have the same weight on the same bar. Your only changing the ride height, the loading is the same.

But it can cause other things to wear faster since they're not at the optimal running condition any more.

it increases the stress on the torsion bars which will cause them to wear out a little faster.

Symmes · February 15th, 2006, 07:30 PM

Wow i still cant figure out what to do. But thanks a lot for all the imput. If you have anymore advive keep it comming.

GMCsonoma94 · February 16th, 2006, 12:03 AM

i say go for it, just dont go all the way up. its the cheapist way to bring her up to height. you might want to look into a body lift. alot of people bash them but i really liked mine on my sonoma. i dont know how good of shape your body is in tho. you got a 2 or 4 door?

Symmes · February 16th, 2006, 11:00 AM

Its is a 4 door that is in good shape. I will have to look over the body mounts and see what kind of shape they are in but pretty shur they are good.

GMCsonoma94 · February 16th, 2006, 12:42 PM

yea look at a body lift, i had a buddy with a truck like that with a body lift and it fit 285s really nice.

Symmes · February 16th, 2006, 08:20 PM

Im going to have to make some decisions and see what money brings. I have found some 2 inch suspension lifts but there are almost 400 bucks. Im going to go talk to dave at cascade 4x4 and see what he says or thinks.

gmcpower98 · February 28th, 2006, 05:43 PM

I Have A '98 Gmc Ext Cab Z71. Running 285/75r16 Bfg All Terrains. No Lift Body Or Suspension. Basicly The Same Suspension As Yours. At First The Tires Just Barely Caught The Inside Of The Wheel Well (only Under Severe Bumps). Dave At Cascade 4x4 Suggested I Take A Pliers And Carefully Curl The Inside Fender Lip Up And Out Of The Way. This Helped. However I Am Paying More Attention To Not Hitting Deep Holes. Your Success Or Failure Will Depend On How You Drive. I Have Seen A Few Trucks Run 315's On Street Only Trucks With No Lift. I Would Stay Away From Cranking The Bars Up. With The Increased Maintenance You Might As Well Get A Small Suspension Lift. Hope This Helps.

GetItOffroadGMC · March 1st, 2006, 05:57 AM

I have a 98 3/4 ton and cranked my torsion bars. I have had no parts go bad in the 40k miles ive put on it since. Take it in and get an alignment....itll help with the funny tire wear......but not eliminate it.

Symmes · March 1st, 2006, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gmcpower98

I Have A '98 Gmc Ext Cab Z71. Running 285/75r16 Bfg All Terrains. No Lift Body Or Suspension. Basicly The Same Suspension As Yours. At First The Tires Just Barely Caught The Inside Of The Wheel Well (only Under Severe Bumps). Dave At Cascade 4x4 Suggested I Take A Pliers And Carefully Curl The Inside Fender Lip Up And Out Of The Way. This Helped. However I Am Paying More Attention To Not Hitting Deep Holes. Your Success Or Failure Will Depend On How You Drive. I Have Seen A Few Trucks Run 315's On Street Only Trucks With No Lift. I Would Stay Away From Cranking The Bars Up. With The Increased Maintenance You Might As Well Get A Small Suspension Lift. Hope This Helps.

I no two other guys that are running 285/75r16 with out a lift also, but it seemed like there trucks sat higher when they put them on that mine does now, i would like to try and put a set on there before i go and by any.

R u running stock or aftermarket rims becuase i wonder if the back spacing will make a difference too? thanks for the info
jake

gmcpower98 · March 9th, 2006, 12:06 PM

After Market Rims With Same Backspacing As Stock.

I P.m.'d You With More Details.

February 12th, 2006, 08:42 PM	#1
Symmes Senior Member Join Date: 11-28-05 Location: Grand Rapids Posts: 429 iTrader: (-1)	torsion bars On my 95 tahoe if i was to crank the torsion bars to fit 285s will it ruin them or is it fine?thanks jake

February 16th, 2006, 11:00 AM	#14
Symmes Senior Member Join Date: 11-28-05 Location: Grand Rapids Posts: 429 iTrader: (-1)	Its is a 4 door that is in good shape. I will have to look over the body mounts and see what kind of shape they are in but pretty shur they are good. Last edited by Symmes; March 2nd, 2006 at 07:11 PM.

February 12th, 2006, 09:53 PM	#3
Symmes Senior Member Join Date: 11-28-05 Location: Grand Rapids Posts: 429 iTrader: (-1)	Ok it will be stiffer but will the parts go bad a lot faster? thansk jake

February 13th, 2006, 01:27 AM	#4
Mclovin "The Situation" Join Date: 11-07-05 Location: Dearborn Heights, Mi Posts: 14,337 iTrader: (15)	Yes front end wear will increase.. ball joint angles get more sevre which causes them to wear out a lil quicker... as well as tie rod ends etc.. Also this will increase the wear on the bars themselves... Oh and your alignment, good luck getting that all within spec.. so your tires will more than likely wear at a tapper...

February 13th, 2006, 01:41 PM	#6
Symmes Senior Member Join Date: 11-28-05 Location: Grand Rapids Posts: 429 iTrader: (-1)	Ok i dont really want the added wear on the fron end does anybody know of anyother really cheep ways to lift it so that i could run 285s. thanks a lot jake

February 13th, 2006, 02:19 PM	#7
Mclovin "The Situation" Join Date: 11-07-05 Location: Dearborn Heights, Mi Posts: 14,337 iTrader: (15)	Nothing that wont throw your front suspension geometry off... the only PROPER way to lift an IFS is with drop bracketry.. and for the price of an IFS lift kit you could swap a dana 44 under the front end with leaf springs..

February 13th, 2006, 09:23 PM	#8
brewmenn Grumpy old man. Join Date: 11-05-05 Location: Inkster, MI/ Darien, IL Posts: 9,539 iTrader: (9)	I know of no reason why it would cause anything bad to happen to the otrsion bars. You will have the same weight on the same bar. Your only changing the ride height, the loading is the same. But it can cause other things to wear faster since they're not at the optimal running condition any more.

February 15th, 2006, 07:30 PM	#12
Symmes Senior Member Join Date: 11-28-05 Location: Grand Rapids Posts: 429 iTrader: (-1)	Wow i still cant figure out what to do. But thanks a lot for all the imput. If you have anymore advive keep it comming.

February 16th, 2006, 12:03 AM	#13
GMCsonoma94 1 wheel peel Join Date: 11-06-05 Location: michigan Posts: 1,577 iTrader: (0)	i say go for it, just dont go all the way up. its the cheapist way to bring her up to height. you might want to look into a body lift. alot of people bash them but i really liked mine on my sonoma. i dont know how good of shape your body is in tho. you got a 2 or 4 door?

February 16th, 2006, 12:42 PM	#15
GMCsonoma94 1 wheel peel Join Date: 11-06-05 Location: michigan Posts: 1,577 iTrader: (0)	yea look at a body lift, i had a buddy with a truck like that with a body lift and it fit 285s really nice.

February 16th, 2006, 08:20 PM	#16
Symmes Senior Member Join Date: 11-28-05 Location: Grand Rapids Posts: 429 iTrader: (-1)	Im going to have to make some decisions and see what money brings. I have found some 2 inch suspension lifts but there are almost 400 bucks. Im going to go talk to dave at cascade 4x4 and see what he says or thinks.

February 28th, 2006, 05:43 PM	#17
gmcpower98 Geocacher!!!!!!!!!! Join Date: 02-26-06 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,641 iTrader: (8)	I Have A '98 Gmc Ext Cab Z71. Running 285/75r16 Bfg All Terrains. No Lift Body Or Suspension. Basicly The Same Suspension As Yours. At First The Tires Just Barely Caught The Inside Of The Wheel Well (only Under Severe Bumps). Dave At Cascade 4x4 Suggested I Take A Pliers And Carefully Curl The Inside Fender Lip Up And Out Of The Way. This Helped. However I Am Paying More Attention To Not Hitting Deep Holes. Your Success Or Failure Will Depend On How You Drive. I Have Seen A Few Trucks Run 315's On Street Only Trucks With No Lift. I Would Stay Away From Cranking The Bars Up. With The Increased Maintenance You Might As Well Get A Small Suspension Lift. Hope This Helps.

March 1st, 2006, 05:57 AM	#18
GetItOffroadGMC Senior Member Join Date: 11-07-05 Location: Davisburg, MI Posts: 617 iTrader: (2)	I have a 98 3/4 ton and cranked my torsion bars. I have had no parts go bad in the 40k miles ive put on it since. Take it in and get an alignment....itll help with the funny tire wear......but not eliminate it.

March 9th, 2006, 12:06 PM	#20
gmcpower98 Geocacher!!!!!!!!!! Join Date: 02-26-06 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 2,641 iTrader: (8)	After Market Rims With Same Backspacing As Stock. I P.m.'d You With More Details.