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Old June 4th, 2007, 12:07 PM   #1
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This is from the mounds this weekend.

If you can afford a winch, you can afford a tree saver.

Link to $27.00 tree saver





For the newbies:

A tree saver will prevent the winch line from going into a tree, and killing it. Its like a short tow strap.
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Old June 4th, 2007, 01:51 PM   #2
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where does the other end of the cable go? back to the bumper? Is that like a hillbilly snatch block... wtf
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Old June 4th, 2007, 01:52 PM   #3
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where does the other end of the cable go? back to the bumper? Is that like a hillbilly snatch block... wtf
yep. Right back to a $20.00 d-ring mounted to the $900.00+ bumper, with the $900.00 warn winch.

Basically a nice little rope saw for that tree :miff:
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I think if you can afford the winch you can afford the vehicle recovery accessory kit that comes with snatch block and tree saver strap.

Not only does the tree saver strap protect the tree. But have you ever seen what happens when a winch cable cuts through a tree and sling shots back at a vehicle. Very dangerous situation.
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Old June 4th, 2007, 02:27 PM   #5
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Thank you for posting that pic. I couldn't believe it when I seen a $40k rig w/ the assumption of an expierenced driver behind the wheel doing this.

This is one of the million reason why we have problems everywhere we go.

It's one thing to be new to the sport, but this was plain stupid. period. There was more than one person witnessing this and letting it go on.

There's is more detail to the situation that really isn't needed, the main concern here is to show: WHAT SHOULD NOT BE DONE W/ A WINCH.

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Old June 4th, 2007, 02:45 PM   #6
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my question is who supplied the picture and did they at least inform the person of the correct way to use a winch.
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Old June 4th, 2007, 02:47 PM   #7
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my question is who supplied the picture and did they at least inform the person of the correct way to use a winch.
are you trying to stir shit up again....
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my question is who supplied the picture and did they at least inform the person of the correct way to use a winch.
That doesn't matter. This is just a post to show the importance of a tree saver.

I've came across alot of winch rubs like this on the trails.
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glad you posted that. i just got my frist wench and i might have done the same stupid thing. newbies right. might be a dumb ??? but how do you use the tree saver?
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glad you posted that. i just got my frist wench and i might have done the same stupid thing. newbies right. might be a dumb ??? but how do you use the tree saver?

If you don't have a snatch block, you would hook your line right to the tree saver.



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are you trying to stir shit up again....
Nope just asking what I believe is a valid question.
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If you don't have a snatch block, you would hook your line right to the tree saver.



Can you elaborate on that more. As in you should use at least a clevis hook with the tree saver and not run the winch line directly through the treesaver loops. As the winch line can cut through the tree save as well.
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Can you elaborate on that more. As in you should use at least a clevis hook with the tree saver and not run the winch line directly through the treesaver loops. As the winch line can cut through the tree save as well.

Most people won't have to use a snatch block. I've winched with hooking my winch hook right to the tree saver a bunch of times. If you have a good anchor point, there is no reason to run the winch line back to the rig.
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http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=12168
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Ok so you were making the statement, that majority of the time there is no need to double up your line. Which is true, being that your winch should be able to pull double the wieght your vehicle. So if you have a 5,000 pound truck your winch should be able to pull 10,000 pounds on a single run of cable.

At least that is what they taught me in vehicle recovery class when I was in the Marines.
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Ok so you were making the statement, that majority of the time there is no need to double up your line. Which is true, being that your winch should be able to pull double the wieght your vehicle. So if you have a 5,000 pound truck your winch should be able to pull 10,000 pounds on a single run of cable.

At least that is what they taught me in vehicle recovery class when I was in the Marines.
Ok. Anyways, just as I stated back 5 posts ago, if you aren't using a snatch block, hook it to the tree saver. I didn't say loop it through. Sorry if that was confusing.


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you did say this was for newbies there for I thought I would act like one, and ask the stupid questions.
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you did say this was for newbies there for I thought I would act like one, and ask the stupid questions.
ok, thank you for your help.
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I used a sling as a tree saver with no clevis.
any reason that you have to use a clevis?



military winches come with a chain to wrap around things. I figure this would hurt a tree just as bad as a cable.





I know that if you put the hook back on a cable it weakens it. another good reason to use a treesaver.

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I've never used a clevis. Thats just how I was shown when I started. There may be a reason to, but I'm unaware of it.
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my question is who supplied the picture and did they at least inform the person of the correct way to use a winch.
To answer your question:

It doesn't matter who took it ... it was taken in an effort to show people the incorrect way of winching.

Is there really a valid reason for the source of the pic?

This thread is to inform the person of the correct procedure w/ an effort to save face and do it in a more constructive manner.
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