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Old February 12th, 2006, 02:36 PM   #1
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Default what did you you big dodge owners do for a track bar?

3" lift and up... isnt it recomended to do something with the track bar?

what have you seen for custom track bars?

or have you used the track bar drop brackets?

i've seen one from tuff country with a support brace that they say is really nice.. but they all say that..

what have you guys used and seen?


oooh and steering also.. how big before i really gotta worry about it? or do something about it......

any reason to worry about the front driveshaft?



what about ladder bars to stabilze the rear axle? what do you think of them?


one other thing..
i was looking into rear shackle flip brackets, any down sides?
my truck has a factory 2" block.. with the flip they say i should get like 5" of lift... would i still leave the block in there? thanks guys
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Old February 12th, 2006, 09:12 PM   #2
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1. Buy an adjustible track bar for the proper lift range. You can come look at my setup when I get back in a few days.

2. You will need to have the front driveshaft lengthened once you lift it enough. I did mine for the 7", but I don't know what the break point is that requires it.

3. I don't know if I would want a traction bar on a full-size with 37's and a D44 rear (is yours a 1500?). Holding the axle still under weight like that and sending the additional force through the shaft may cause breakage.
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Old February 12th, 2006, 09:23 PM   #3
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3" lift and up... isnt it recomended to do something with the track bar?

what have you seen for custom track bars?

or have you used the track bar drop brackets?

i've seen one from tuff country with a support brace that they say is really nice.. but they all say that..

what have you guys used and seen?


oooh and steering also.. how big before i really gotta worry about it? or do something about it......

any reason to worry about the front driveshaft?



what about ladder bars to stabilze the rear axle? what do you think of them?


one other thing..
i was looking into rear shackle flip brackets, any down sides?
my truck has a factory 2" block.. with the flip they say i should get like 5" of lift... would i still leave the block in there? thanks guys
on my 1500 i ran a DT ProFab trackbar..



ladder bars are kinda ghey .. however a single bar to control axle wrap might not be a bad idea..
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Old February 13th, 2006, 07:30 PM   #4
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I highly recomend the ladder bars if you are running big enough tires! However you are going to find it hard to find ones that bolt right on to your truck BDS just came out with some that fit the 02 and up rams that i plan on getting soon and making them work. I just lost my rear drive shaft among other things due to axle rap because I waited to get ladder bars. As far as the track bar skyjacker makes an adjustable one but I have heard a lot of complaints about it. The one pictured above looks nice but I have the the skyjacker relocation bracket (Welded to the frame) on mine a and I just bought the Moog replacement track bar that comes with a life time warrenty and havent had problems since. I have 8" total suspension lift and didn't do anything with the front drive shaft and havent had any problems yet. Any bigger and I would think that I would have to do something though.
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Old February 13th, 2006, 08:21 PM   #5
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I highly recomend the ladder bars if you are running big enough tires! However you are going to find it hard to find ones that bolt right on to your truck BDS just came out with some that fit the 02 and up rams that i plan on getting soon and making them work. I just lost my rear drive shaft among other things due to axle rap because I waited to get ladder bars. As far as the track bar skyjacker makes an adjustable one but I have heard a lot of complaints about it. The one pictured above looks nice but I have the the skyjacker relocation bracket (Welded to the frame) on mine a and I just bought the Moog replacement track bar that comes with a life time warrenty and havent had problems since. I have 8" total suspension lift and didn't do anything with the front drive shaft and havent had any problems yet. Any bigger and I would think that I would have to do something though.


soo.. mind if i ask what kinda of suspension setup your running besides the skyjacker track bar drop bracket... i just replaced my track bar with a moog also brand new (lifetime warrenty) guess i'll stay with that!
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Old February 13th, 2006, 10:13 PM   #6
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skyjacker 5.5" complete single flex kit. (All new springs) After a couple months the truck just didn't look as cool to me so I added BDS coil spacers and blocks for the rest of the lift. Also have a 3" body lift. The blocks caused a severe amount of axle rap that I just never got around to taking care of the right way. I tried to fab up my own traction bars but broke them both their first time out on the trail. I am now planning on going with new springs long arms and traction bars all from BDS. I wish I would have went with their kit in the first place to be honest. Their warrenty speaks volumes for their product and I will go with them for most of my needs from now on. I will tell you that while the traction bars were on there that it made an unspeakable amount of difference and really allowed the 5.9L to show its true colors.
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Old February 13th, 2006, 10:15 PM   #7
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by the way this set up allowed plenty of clearence for 39/15R16 Bajas that I never got to rub.
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Old February 13th, 2006, 10:49 PM   #8
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I will tell you that while the traction bars were on there that it made an unspeakable amount of difference and really allowed the 5.9L to show its true colors.

what do you mean? the skyjacker one? or the moog one?... sorry lost ya




right now iam running 37x12.50x16's truxxus m/t's that rub slightly in the front at full turn
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Old February 14th, 2006, 04:20 PM   #9
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what do you mean? the skyjacker one? or the moog one?... sorry lost ya




right now iam running 37x12.50x16's truxxus m/t's that rub slightly in the front at full turn


"Traction" Not "track" Bars. Ladder bars are a different way to go about solving the axle rap issue. And are those tires on stock rims?
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Old February 14th, 2006, 08:54 PM   #10
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"Traction" Not "track" Bars. Ladder bars are a different way to go about solving the axle rap issue. And are those tires on stock rims?
no they are on 16x8" aluminum wheels

less than stock back spacing like 3.5-4 maybe?
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Old February 14th, 2006, 11:28 PM   #11
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I have 8" total suspension lift and didn't do anything with the front drive shaft and havent had any problems yet. Any bigger and I would think that I would have to do something though.
Are you running a front sway bar? When my lift went on, the install had to be stopped and a call to Skyjacker was made regarding the front driveshaft after a few measurements were made. My lift is fresh, so its possible that its sitting higher than the advertised 7" right now - we didn't do before and after static height measurements.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 11:31 PM   #12
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You guys do any engine mods.?

Sure would like to give my old Ram a run before its sold.

Its only got a 6cyl.

Anyone care to give it a go.:tonka:
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You guys do any engine mods.?

Sure would like to give my old Ram a run before its sold.

Its only got a 6cyl.

Anyone care to give it a go.:tonka:



I heard about it doing 13's at milan.


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I haven't ever needed any. The 488 has served me well. I used to tear around in it when it had 33's and 4.10's. Seemed to move nicely. Still on my original trans with approx 160k, too.
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For the trackbar, I'm using a DT bar.
I'm at about 10 1/2" of suspension lift and my front driveshaft is stock. I did however rotate the transfercase slightly with the Skyjacker indexing ring. That brought the front driveshaft back down to a respectable level again.
I am still running the front swaybar as well. The only thing I did there was flip the swaybar upsidedown and bolt everything right back up. Works perfectly.
In the rear I am using a shackleflip setup that I made along with some 5 1/2" blocks. I do plan on getting some new leafs and go with a minimal sized block later on or maybe even do a 4 link rear set-up with coils and get rid of the leafs entirely. We'll see what happens.
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Old February 17th, 2006, 01:54 PM   #16
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crazeejay...I was just looking at your gallery...and you'll probably end up being the first cool Canadian I've met because of how absolutely badass your truck is.
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Yes I am running the sway bar with the drop brackets. I did the origional 5.5 and then added blocks for the rest later on. It has definently squated down a little hence the concideration of all new springs but I haven't had issues really with anything but wheel bearings till this drive shaft thing which I hold my self accountable for. Aside from all that with the 4:10s I can still do 75mph down the highway with out a problem.
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crazeejay...I was just looking at your gallery...and you'll probably end up being the first cool Canadian I've met because of how absolutely badass your truck is.

Well thats very American of you......lol I do agree though. it is nice.
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