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Old May 26th, 2007, 08:59 PM   #1
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I was told by you guys that at some point I'd want to get lockers, today I was in 4low and in 2nd and 3rd gear most of the time. When I gave it gas I was flying. If you were me when would you have used lockers? And Why? Or are lockers for a totally different terrain other than the mounds?
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Old May 26th, 2007, 09:10 PM   #2
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lockers are nice to have anywhere you may get wheels off of the ground. They are nice for mud too. pretty much everywhere but the street
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Old May 26th, 2007, 09:15 PM   #3
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lockers are nice to have anywhere you may get wheels off of the ground. They are nice for mud too. pretty much everywhere but the street
Can you break it down though? When I'm in mud in 2nd gear 4low what is actually happening vs. lockers. I thought 4wheel drive meant all 4wheels turn vs. all wheel drive where one tire is gripping so it's spinning and others aren't or am I still confused?
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Old May 26th, 2007, 09:18 PM   #4
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Lockers = All tires spinning at same speed.
Open Differential= power sent to front and rear axels... The differencial decides which one gets power(Path of less resistance.
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Old May 26th, 2007, 09:20 PM   #5
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In 4 lo, the only thing that changes from 4 hi is the gearing. Only one tire from each axle is driving. A locker on either axle will "lock" the diff and put power to both tires on that axle. Brief explanation.
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okay....you are wrong about the 4wd thing. When the power is transfered through the differential (center part of the axle) it goes through a serious of gears that allows the tires to rotate at different rate of speeds. Invision when you go around a corner, the outside tire is turning faster than the inside tire. When you engage 4wd, the power is transfered through the (OPEN) differential, and the power is sent to the side that is able to turn easiest. (Invision the different rotating speeds) This means that actually only one of your tires is turning. So you will have one in the front, and one in the back that will turn. Lockers actually "lock" the axleshafts together, so that they actually turn at the same speed, and you have a TRUE 4WD. Both tires will turn at the same speed when going straight, but when cornering automatic lockers will disengage to allow you to make the corner without dragging the outside tire around the corner. With a convential 4WD system, it is actually only 2WD. Let me know if that makes sence

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okay....you are wrong about the 4wd thing. When the power is transfered through the differential (center part of the axle) it goes through a serious of gears that allows the tires to rotate at different rate of speeds. Invision when you go around a corner, the outside tire is turning faster than the inside tire. When you engage 4wd, the power is transfered through the (OPEN) differential, and the power is sent to the side that is able to turn easiest. (Invision the different rotating speeds) This means that actually only one of your tires is turning. So you will have one in the front, and one in the back that will turn. Lockers actually "lock" the axleshafts together, so that they actually turn at the same speed, and you have a TRUE 4WD. Both tires will turn at the same speed when going straight, but when cornering automatic lockers will disengage to allow you to make the corner without dragging the outside tire around the corner. With a convential 4WD system, it is actually only 2WD. Let me know if that makes sence

Yes, that helps thanks. One other question though. If I were to get one more thing for my jeep, in the near future would you get lockers or a winch?
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Old May 26th, 2007, 10:50 PM   #8
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buy a helicopter. then you wont need lockers, 4wd, or a winch:tonka:
depends on if you use it more for street or trail. if you lean more towards the street, get a winch. if you are off road ALOT, lock it and get a winch.
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Old May 26th, 2007, 11:16 PM   #9
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I was told by you guys that at some point I'd want to get lockers, today I was in 4low and in 2nd and 3rd gear most of the time. When I gave it gas I was flying. If you were me when would you have used lockers? And Why? Or are lockers for a totally different terrain other than the mounds?
I can think of at least 50 times today at the mounds i could've used lockers.. but at the same time i made it 45 of of those times without lockers just by picking a different line
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Old May 27th, 2007, 02:28 PM   #10
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Get a winch first. It will be worth it the first time you use it. Then do the locker(s). It is kind of a good idea to get comfortable with your off road ability with open diffs. You will get better at picking lines, and you will probably avoid getting your Jeep into a situation you don't want to be in. Your Jeep is new, so you probably aren't ready to risk body damage or a rollover yet. The open diffs will somewhat prevent you from getting into trouble like that. And the winch will always be a good thing to have. Just my thoughts. Good luck and welcome to the sport, there's no going back!
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When you re-gear your axles- that's when you want to put in the locker!
Plan on spending 4K to do both.
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Old June 11th, 2007, 12:45 PM   #12
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I would get a m8000 or equivilant and a aussie/powertrax for the front if you DD it, that way it doesn't really efffect street time. Then save up for a arb/e locker/ox for the rear.
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I would get a m8000 or equivilant and a aussie/powertrax for the front if you DD it, that way it doesn't really efffect street time. Then save up for a arb/e locker/ox for the rear.
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Old June 11th, 2007, 01:55 PM   #14
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If you are limited on funds, then look at your situation.

Do you always go with a group of people? When you go, do they winch much, or use snatch straps.

If you are by yoruself, get a winch first. If you are with a group, and they don't frequently use a winch, then get a locker first.
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this is a tricky question to answer.... but honestly... if u are new to off-roading... FIRST thing to do is get a good CB, tow strap and screw type shackles.... THEN move on from there... a good set of tires can do an awful lot for you....

as already recomended, get to know your truck first, THEN get the lockers or whatever. If you are already running limited slip differentials thats not a bad setup.

I never recommend off-roading alone, but if you do get into that situation, a winch is a must....

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expecialy offroading somewere you shouldent be:tonka: the city sucks!!
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