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Old May 22nd, 2007, 12:24 AM   #1
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That's what you get, dumbass...

Man with unloaded gun killed by victim

May 19, 2007

BY BEN SCHMITT and JACK KRESNAK

FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS

A robbery and crime spree aided by an unloaded gun came to a halt late Thursday when the gunman met more than his match: a gun with bullets.

Charles Parker Jr., 18, of Detroit was killed when a 53-year-old man pulled out a 9mm handgun and shot the teen, who was armed with an unloaded .22-caliber handgun.

Detroit police are calling it self-defense.

The botched carjacking on Grand River and Prevost came after a string of robberies in Detroit on Thursday, which police said were committed by Parker and four others, ranging in age from 16 to 20.

The robberies began about 8:40 p.m. Thursday at Kentucky and Curtis when a 16-year-old was robbed of his cell phone, a silver chain and his wallet, by at least two of the suspects, police said.

At 9:30 p.m., the robbers attempted to carjack a couple in the driveway of their home in the 19600 block of Appoline, police said. One pointed the unloaded gun at the couple and pulled the trigger.

The teens fled without the car.

Later, police said, the robbers saw a man at a Detroit car wash and tried to carjack him. The one approached with the unloaded gun and the other wielded a baseball bat, police said.

That's when the man washing his car fired, striking Parker.

Parker's alleged accomplices took him to Sinai-Grace Hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival. Hospital security officers detained the other youths until police arrived. Police spokesman James Tate said a 17-year-old Detroit female, 16-year-old Southfield boy, a 19-year-old Southfield man, and a 20-year-old Detroit man are in custody.

They face arraignment on armed robbery charges today in Detroit's 36th District Court.

After the shooting, police questioned the 53-year-old man and released him, noting that he had a valid concealed weapons permit.

Then they gave him back his gun.

Contact BEN SCHMITT at bcschmitt@freepress.com.

Copyright 2007 Detroit Free Press Inc.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 12:25 AM   #2
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Haha...yeah I thought that was pretty funny. I read that earlier today. Figured someone would beat me to posting it so I never did.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 12:27 AM   #3
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Damn right. Fucker got what he had coming. Too bad the guy didnt shoot the other two.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 12:34 AM   #4
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Yeah I read that in a paper Sunday. I'd like to thank the man for ridding this earth of 1 more lowlife scumbag. I'm sure the last thing that the 5 kids expected the old man to pull out was a gun. the 19yo got what was coming to him.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 01:14 AM   #5
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:08 AM   #6
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One more reason why EVERYBODY who can get a CCW.........SHOULD

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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:19 AM   #7
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:38 AM   #8
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I'd like to thank the man for ridding this earth of 1 more lowlife scumbag. The 19yo got what was coming to him.



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A robbery and crime spree aided by an unloaded gun came to a halt late Thursday when the gunman met more than his match: a gun with bullets.

Charles Parker Jr., 18, of Detroit was killed when a 53-year-old man pulled out a 9mm handgun and shot the teen, who was armed with an unloaded .22-caliber handgun.

Detroit police are calling it self-defense.



+1 for the good guys
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:50 AM   #9
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What's scary is they pointed the gun at another couple and pulled the trigger. If you point a gun at someone you have to pay the consequences..

Oh, the article was wrong about the guy getting his gun back. That will be on evidence for a while.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 06:54 AM   #10
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After the shooting, police questioned the 53-year-old man and released him, noting that he had a valid concealed weapons permit.

Then they gave him back his gun.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:10 AM   #11
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Oh, the article was wrong about the guy getting his gun back. That will be on evidence for a while.
sure about that? sounds like the investigation as it relates to the guy performing self defense is over.

now, the empty .22 cal, with the corpses fingerprints, yeah, that'd most likely still be in an evidence locker for some time to come for the other kids awaiting trial...
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:12 AM   #12
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/me waits for TV coverage of the 400# mom on a porch crying cause her "baby" wouldn't do anything like that, and the old man was wrong........
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:17 AM   #13
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/me waits for TV coverage of the 400# mom on a porch crying cause her "baby" wouldn't do anything like that, and the old man was wrong........
No, she will say "my oldest baby" and she will have 14 of his brothers and sisters hugging her legs
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:17 AM   #14
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:19 AM   #15
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and they will be standing in knee deep grass in their front yard, and they will interview the neighbors who will be in their late 80's talking about how nice the kid was.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:25 AM   #17
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and they will be standing in knee deep grass in their front yard, and they will interview the neighbors who will be in their late 80's talking about how nice the kid was.

and in the background you'l hear more sirens as they bust a meth lab
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sure about that? sounds like the investigation as it relates to the guy performing self defense is over.

now, the empty .22 cal, with the corpses fingerprints, yeah, that'd most likely still be in an evidence locker for some time to come for the other kids awaiting trial...
Positive, Detroit just doesn't function like that. They would still need to conduct an investigation. They couldn't just say "oh, he was pointing a gun at you and you killed him, OK"

The cause of death will still be ruled a "homicide", meaning he died because someone killed him. The investigators will still need to write up the circumstances and present it to the Prosecutor's Office. They are the ones to decide if it was Justifiable Homicide. They don't give that kind of power to police (at least here).
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Positive, Detroit just doesn't function like that. They would still need to conduct an investigation. They couldn't just say "oh, he was pointing a gun at you and you killed him, OK"

The cause of death will still be ruled a "homicide", meaning he died because someone killed him. The investigators will still need to write up the circumstances and present it to the Prosecutor's Office. They are the ones to decide if it was Justifiable Homicide. They don't give that kind of power to police (at least here).
I will most definitely defer knowledge of the Detroit/Wayne county criminal system. It's been a couple of years since I had cause to even enter Wayne county. (I try to fly out of Bishop)
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:50 AM   #20
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One more reason why EVERYBODY who can get a CCW.........SHOULD

yea but then what happens when the govt goes crazy and decides to rule us entirely...conveniently they have the names and addresses of tons of people with guns to confiscate them so no one can fight back against the govt taking full control over our lives
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