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Old February 9th, 2006, 06:04 AM   #1
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Default Loose steering, NEED HELP QUICK!

Myself and JeepMann have repalced our trackbars and steering stabalizers. Everything is tight but loosens up after its driven abit. For some reason now with the new parts good and tight. The jeep is swaying all over the road, it is almost uncontrolable. Does anyone have a fix for this? Both have TJ's one is a 2000 and a 1997

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Old February 9th, 2006, 07:20 AM   #2
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The track bar is a Rubie Express RE 1600 Adjustable.
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Old February 9th, 2006, 07:47 AM   #3
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Check your gear box, mine needed adjustment.
check your Hubs/ wheel bearings.
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Old February 9th, 2006, 08:32 AM   #4
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Are the track bars brand new?


I just went through my front end searching for deathwobble. My XJ is running a RE3.5" lift with a RE adjustable track bar(looks like the same bar from looking at the pics on RE site), heim joint at the frame end.

With a buddy turning the wheel, wheels on the ground, everything looked tight. However, when I put it on jackstands and took most of the weight off the front axle, it was apparent there was slop in the heim joint.

Not much, *maybe* 1/32" of play, but that was enough to go from good steering to drift and deathwobble.


When you put in the new trackbars, did you get the axle aligned on center of the Jeep?

Did you get the heim joint flat end nice and perpendicular to the plane of bar movement?

Did you secure the jam nut? Is the heim joint staying in the orientation that you are setting it originally?


While I was waiting for my new heim joint (I believe the part used by RE is a QA1-XM series, left hand thread, 3/4 x 3/4), I put it back together with the old joint, and didnt' get the jam nut tight enough, and it flopped all over the place.


It doesn't seem like anything else should have been messed up if you just changed the bar and stabilizers. I know now with my bar in good shape, I can detect other issues but its better than before, not worse..

JeepMann, anything else to add to this?
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Old February 9th, 2006, 09:16 AM   #5
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well when i did mine the other day. I left the jeep loaded on the ground and took measurements before i took it apart. and put it together the same. But when i tightend up the hemi bolt to the frame the axle shifted to the left alittle. I dont know whats up with it. Steeves did the same thing but either one of them didnt move much at all. I had mine alligned after the fact and it still is doing it. Steeves was done tues night. and he cant contol his over 55 mph. My jame nut was tightend but may have come loose. and it appears that the hime joint is staying in place from what i can see. Any suggestions?
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Old February 9th, 2006, 10:10 AM   #6
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Hmm, dunno. Sounds like you did everything correctly. I'll think about it to see if there's anything else I can think off, but you guys have probably already covered everything I can think of...
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Try to see if there is alot of play in the axle mounting point. The hole might be oval shaped or the bushing could be shot. Also, go to the deal and order the right bolt and nut tab. You can never really fully tighten a nut behind it. If that doesn't work....


RE1600 is a pile of shit.

RE1610 Works great mine has never loosened up at the heim since I replaced the RE1600 with it. Down side up need to add a RE1611 and cut down the threaded joint end if your running a lift less than 4.5"

Pic. of the RE1611

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I agre there, hate having that heim joint on mine.
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Did you use the original torx head bolt at the axle end? It's a bitch getting that tight, I replaced mine with a regular hardened bolt.
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Did you use the original torx head bolt at the axle end? It's a bitch getting that tight, I replaced mine with a regular hardened bolt.

There is no Torx bolt on the front track bar only the rear has them.
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For the RE, at least on mine, it is a 5/8" grade 8 bolt that I used. I believe 3.5" or 4" long, can't remember. But thats on an XJ, the TJ mount I don't remember how it works.
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For the RE, at least on mine, it is a 5/8" grade 8 bolt that I used. I believe 3.5" or 4" long, can't remember. But thats on an XJ, the TJ mount I don't remember how it works.

Yup 5/8-18 NF Grade 8 bolt on the frame and a 10mm 1.25 on the axle.
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There is no Torx bolt on the front track bar only the rear has them.
actually the older ones had torx at the axle side. Not sure when they switched over but I imagine in 2000 since that seemed to be the first large amount of changes to the tj.

Now that I finally got my heim bolt and jam nut to stay tight it does great with no wander what so ever. I talked to Dean this afternoon and sounds like it was his rear trackbar that was extremely worn causing it to handle funny.
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actually the older ones had torx at the axle side. Not sure when they switched over but I imagine in 2000 since that seemed to be the first large amount of changes to the tj.

Now that I finally got my heim bolt and jam nut to stay tight it does great with no wander what so ever. I talked to Dean this afternoon and sounds like it was his rear trackbar that was extremely worn causing it to handle funny.
offtopic... but my 2001 also had a torx upfront...


have you looked into wheel hubs? perhaps the bearings are shot?
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actually the older ones had torx at the axle side. Not sure when they switched over but I imagine in 2000 since that seemed to be the first large amount of changes to the tj.

Now that I finally got my heim bolt and jam nut to stay tight it does great with no wander what so ever. I talked to Dean this afternoon and sounds like it was his rear trackbar that was extremely worn causing it to handle funny.
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I was worried you would be hurting for the weekend.

I don't remember well but I do seem to think that yeah, there was a T55 or T60 torx at the axle end.

Back when I put the RE lift on the 98, they just had you redrill the axle hole 3/4" to the left to compensate for lift.
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Yeah so the prob was that my jeep hasnt had any maintenance in along time and the axle side bolt hole on the rear track bar was oblong and hince it was really loose causing me to sway around. So i had a new RE ADj, T-bar put on with a new 1/2" bolt to fill the void and now she drives like a new Jeep. Thanks for the help though.
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