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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:10 AM   #1
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Are there any laws that I'm potentially breaking by wheeling on private land (with the owner's permission of course)?
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Old May 9th, 2007, 08:28 AM   #2
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Yes, especially if you are involving water or wetlands..
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Yes, especially if you are involving water or wetlands..



IF IT IS A REGULATED WETLANDS YES THEY CAN GIVE YOU SHIT

IF THE WETLANDS HAPPEN TO BE NONREGULATED THEN YOU CAN HAVE A FULL ON FREE FOR ALL IN THERE
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The DNR can and will write you a ticket anywhere, at any time, for anything. Legal or not.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:34 AM   #6
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The DNR can and will write you a ticket anywhere, at any time, for anything. Legal or not.
GOOD POINT !!!! THEY CAN WRITE YOU A TICKET FOR ANYTHING !!! IF THEY WANT
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Old May 9th, 2007, 10:19 AM   #7
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The DNR can and will write you a ticket anywhere, at any time, for anything. Legal or not.
Thats less then accurate . They can indeed come on private property " IF " they have resonable information that a crime is being commited where as a standard police officer must obtain a warrant first .

On private land your not going to have an issue for cutting a trail , climbing hills or spinning your tires . Yes you must still observe wet land laws but that is not to say you cant play in the mud . Stay out of natural swaps , rivers and streams .

For example my jeep course here has been looked at by the DEQ and he thought nothing of it . Well he was a little confused and asked what the road was used for
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The DNR can and will write you a ticket anywhere, at any time, for anything. Legal or not.
I don't fret too much about tickets its the laws that worry me.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 11:21 AM   #9
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On private land your not going to have an issue for cutting a trail , climbing hills or spinning your tires . Yes you must still observe wet land laws but that is not to say you cant play in the mud . Stay out of natural swaps , rivers and streams .
thanks for the advice, sounds like I'm legal
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just a couple of points to add, my friends down in Grass Lake were holding a mud bog in the evening about 10 years ago. the DNR showed up with Sheriffs in tow. they wrote several tickets on private land starting with having a gathering of over a certain size group without a permit. I never thought the DNR had that power, but they used a Township ordinance to get the guy. he had a bunch of friends who got tickets for riding in his fields and causing errosion...don't ask me how they got away with it but they did. he's never had a bog since.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the DNR were the highest trained officers in the state. They could essentially pull you over for speeding if they wanted, but usually don't. That is probably why they were able to enforce the gathering code. Plus it gave them reason to write other tickets.
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technicly they are just county sheriffs deputies, BUT they are granted the power of the all mighty DNR. if they were to pull you over on the road for simple stuff the officers would spend all thier time in court fighting you rather then being out in the field writing US!
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technicly they are just county sheriffs deputies, BUT they are granted the power of the all mighty DNR. US!
I believe they are technically State Troopers...
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I believe they are technically State Troopers...
I had heard this too, but without any proof I wasn't going to open my mouth.
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I had heard this too, but without any proof I wasn't going to open my mouth.
The closest I could find to proof is this "Conservation officers hired by the Michigan Department of Natural Resources undergo nearly 10 months of extensive recruit training. The first part is a basic police recruit school academy conducted at the Michigan State Police training facility near Lansing. "
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Old May 14th, 2007, 07:37 PM   #16
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I beleive the DNR has more jurisdiction than all officers because they can go any were any time they want unlike a county sherrif. And Yes I am pretty sure they can pull you over on the road also....All I know is they are a pain in the ARRS
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DNR=god of law enforcement
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I gots beef with the DNR. They do a important job of keeping people from poaching, tearing up public property, and dumping/littering on public property. But when they come on land that is private to mess with me, it makes me a little upset. i have spent many moons in the wild places, and i usually have no problem with them. i was thrown in jail by one brave young officer for fishing illegally, and that kind of chapped my ass. the next summer he asked me if i would rat out some people i knew because he thought they were running some kind of illegal fishing operation out of their house, and they were not. another time i was sitting in my blind, in the middle of a 750 acre chunk of private land, and officer screwhead drove up to my blind and asked me for my license.
By all means should these guys have the power they need to keep people on the straight and narrow on public land, but in my backyard or a consenting friends yard, as long as i am not doing something that is irreparable to the enviroment nd they better never show up at my house without a warrant. sorry about the rant

P.S. they can pull you over, and they can issue a ticket for anything a cop can.
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Steveo I'm suprised more of the DNR that hassel people for boggis stuff don't end up as "Hunting accidents". they seem to have driven most of the people away that would pay good money to have fun in our state. I was just reading about Arizona and they are LOWERING the fee to open up trail for OHVs and they are rerouting funding to create a trails program. the AZ OHV fund don't exist as of yet. its still in bill form. but they see the money that can be made. the state recorded a 350% increase in ORV use over the last couple years, why not take advantage of incoming monies?
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dude, we dont even want to go into the "hunting accidents" I have thought of it more than once. if we all went out and bagged a DNR officer on opening day.:chiefwoohaw: the way i see it, they will fukc themselves until they start to feel a pinch. instead of making proactive solutions, they just issue more tickets and raise the cost of them. when i was hauled off for the fishing charge, all they cared about was getting the 180 bucks from me, and only 70 of that was actually applied to the fine. the rest is secretary fee's, filing fee's etc... i recently heard a rumor that 3000 state troopers were losing their jobs. what branch of law enforcement is next?
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