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Old May 10th, 2007, 08:00 PM   #21
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thanks for the info keep it comming
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Old May 10th, 2007, 08:14 PM   #22
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i had the cummins 2002 3500 the only problem i had was the trans went through 2 of them in 115,000 miles i sold that and bought the cummins 6.7 with the 6 speed and love it
ford ford sucks my old man has one 55,000 miles smokes like a chimney sounds like shit it's a 2003 garbage ford

Chevy they just look wierd
so i kn ow the ford guys are going to say dodge sucks but hey buy what u want to each his own i like dodge
to me buy chevy dodge or ford just don't buy
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Old May 10th, 2007, 09:12 PM   #23
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forcerecon, what is most important to you? Looks? Towing ability? Snow plowing? Creature comforts? Bling? Barbecuing?

All the newer trucks look goofy, like transformer cars or the family truckster from the movie vacation. Dodge is the least goofy, followed by much improved GMs. The older Superdutys were good looking trucks. The new Ford headlights just look too strange and the grill is too big, but who knows maybe they just need some getting used to.

They all can tow well. The factory integrated brake controller like Ford has seems like a good idea (does GM offer one now?). For snow plowing, Ford had the highest front GAWR followed by Dodge and GM used to have the lowest, probably still does with the IFS. GM probably wins the luxury grocery getter and bling categories, although it looks like Ford is trying to give em a run for the money there. A pickup truck should not have a center console! Barbecuing...hands down the 6.4 with the flame thrower option!

Tough call, all are decent trucks, but I think Iíd stay away from the first year of a new engine or tranny from any manufacturer, especially if you plan to bomb the truck. Also keep in mind it will be the first year for the Dodge 6 speed auto, so both the 6.7 engine and 68RFE tranny in the Dodge will be somewhat unproven. Donít know about the Ford or GM trannys.
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Old May 10th, 2007, 10:12 PM   #24
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it's going to be a daily driver ,snow plowing "boss 9.2 v" towing heavy loads for my construction company so work pretty hard for a few years
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Old May 11th, 2007, 07:14 AM   #25
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Old May 11th, 2007, 01:09 PM   #26
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i am staying out of this one, since i am apparently "biased". no crap, who isnt biased somewhat. i think we just went over this same decision in another thread pretty recently.
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Old May 13th, 2007, 11:42 AM   #27
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Old May 16th, 2007, 11:37 AM   #28
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Not the Ford!

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Old May 21st, 2007, 09:20 AM   #29
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Old May 24th, 2007, 02:14 PM   #30
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I wouldnt buy any new diesel trucks...wait till the new Toyota HD comes out if you want a BA truck..Rumor has it they will either be developing there own diesel engine with Hino or working with Catipilar..thats what im going to buy.....sell my POS 05 F250 PSD and get a real truck!
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Old May 24th, 2007, 06:20 PM   #31
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Dodge
Chevy
Ford

In that Order.

Only in Michigan are Fords thought to be a good truck. If you head out west you will see 6 out of ten trucks are a Dodge Cummins power, 3 of ten are GM, and 1 of ten are Fords.

Just for reference
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Old May 25th, 2007, 09:44 AM   #32
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im not saying the cummins isnt the best diesel engine...cuz I think it is, but in Texas (corpus) where my buddy lives he says the opposite. He said you rarely see a dodge, majority of the trucks are Ford and Chevy HD's
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Old May 25th, 2007, 04:14 PM   #33
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I feel each of the trucks are fairly comparable.

One thing to keep in mind the cummins engine trany combo is the only set-up that is rated as medium duty.

What does that mean... not a whole lot unless you intend to do performance mods to your diesel. Buy the cummins if you dont want to rebuild the engine every year.

If there are no plans for performance get what is comfortable.
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Old June 16th, 2007, 09:36 AM   #34
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actualy dodge has been in talks for years with detroit diesel i thought. i know detroit even converted a few durangos, dakotas and rams for them a few years ago and shiped them to south america for testing. i know someone who used to work on the project before all the lay offs...
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Old June 16th, 2007, 06:54 PM   #35
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beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. until any of these trucks have been out long enough to have any sort of long-term testing done, anyone's guess is as good as anyone else's. if anything, i'd suggest searching around for what you want in used truck a year or two old. just my opinion however. whatever you decide, good luck and let us know!
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Old June 18th, 2007, 07:13 PM   #36
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Dodge
Chevy
Ford

In that Order.

Only in Michigan are Fords thought to be a good truck. If you head out west you will see 6 out of ten trucks are a Dodge Cummins power, 3 of ten are GM, and 1 of ten are Fords.

Just for reference
Maybe Cummins needs to have rods that big because its a I-6 the same size at the other two V-8's. :dunno:

I wouldn't buy any of them. I thought Cummins was the best engine for reliabilty until I seen Ironmans '04.5 600 leave him stranded twice on long trips towing his Jeep.

My option right now would be a Ford with V10 or GMC with 6.0L. To bad GM dropped the 8.1L. I think you need to give Ford and Dodge a few years to see how their new engines pan out.
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What happened to Pat's rig that left him stranded? Just curious as I have the same truck, just not the DRW.
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What happened to Pat's rig that left him stranded? Just curious as I have the same truck, just not the DRW.
1st time injectors dumped a gallon or so of fuel into the block. left him and his 40' trailer/Jeep stranded in Ohio coming back from Tellico.

Last winter fuel pumped died coming back from Evart with his 20' trailer in two.

Both problems Cummins/Dodge were aware of but wont issue a recall...just wait for the part to fail and fix it.

He got rid of the truck due to those problems, picked up a 1/2 ton with Hemi.
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Old June 28th, 2007, 12:55 AM   #39
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This has got to be one of the oldest most hashed out discussions in the history of the interweb...


Chevy's ride nice cause of the IFS and can crank some power out of the DMax. Allison tranny is great, but will still need to be built up if the DMax is bombed...

Ford... well... they are having some problems with their engine manufacturer which is kinda concerning...


I personally will only consider a Cummins. It's the only true Medium Duty diesel of the major three (vs light duty). A straight six is a stronger configuration than V8 IMHO and I want longentivety out of my engine (yes I know the rest of the Dodge will fall apart long before the motor ).
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1st time injectors dumped a gallon or so of fuel into the block. left him and his 40' trailer/Jeep stranded in Ohio coming back from Tellico.

Last winter fuel pumped died coming back from Evart with his 20' trailer in two.

Both problems Cummins/Dodge were aware of but wont issue a recall...just wait for the part to fail and fix it.

He got rid of the truck due to those problems, picked up a 1/2 ton with Hemi.
I lost my fuel pump, but the injectors haven't failed yet. Of course, I only have about 6k miles left on my warranty now... I better get a new set of 100hp injectors to prevent it from happening. :tonka:
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