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Old May 1st, 2007, 01:48 PM   #1
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Since the rule is left up to interpretation, and no $ amount is posted as a requirement, shouldn't the rule be clarified to require a price in US Dollars?

Posted at the urging of the marketplace moderator who needs black and white rules to make his job easier.

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Old May 1st, 2007, 02:17 PM   #2
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Posted at the urging of the marketplace moderator who needs black and white rules to make his job easier.
Although you finally made the post here, you continue to miss the point. Its not, and never has been, my job to interpret anything. The minute I do, we're back on the old site. You may want that (since you can't shut up about it), but the rest of us don't.

FYI, this exact issue has been brought to the Mod Forum in the past. The decision at the time was that most people would not understand what the word "monetary" even means, or something to that effect.

If you want it to change, post up what you think.
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PP right now if a person offers a price, as I defined in the post we discussed this, it gets moved.

The rules state include a price. A price as I posted does not have to be a monetary value.

What I am saying is that since it seems if someone offers up what they are looking for as a price, you have interpreted that or been instructed to interpret that as an ad with no price.....when in fact by definition it is a price.

The rules should state that a price in $$$ be posted.

That's all. my point is that the rule is not clear. Though the moderation is consistent.

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Although you finally made the post here, you continue to miss the point. Its not, and never has been, my job to interpret anything. The minute I do, we're back on the old site. You may want that (since you can't shut up about it), but the rest of us don't.

FYI, this exact issue has been brought to the Mod Forum in the past. The decision at the time was that most people would not understand what the word "monetary" even means, or something to that effect.

If you want it to change, post up what you think.
My point with interpretation leads to the fact that you have moved posts that clearly state a value, although not mentary value, but a clear value the seller wants for the item. Which in turn was their price.

All ads requiring a price is too vague.

All ads requiring a price in $$ is black and white and leaves no room to argue.

Vague=the old place that you refer to me wanting back, the same place I didn't visit for 3 years.

Black and white enforeceable rules = most of the rules here. Somewhere I waste a lot of time while at work.
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That's why I pointed out that this has been brought up before (by me), so I don't know why you are trying to convince me with the "black & white" argument.

The rule was never left up to interpretation. The example that was provided was enforced. The problem was that people would read the example and not follow it. What we're really doing here is proposing a way to "spell it out" for everyone.

In the beginning, all the "Rules" were written more like suggestions. The title was changed to "Rules", but not much of the text has been changed over time.

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PP right now if a person offers a price, as I defined in the post we discussed this, it gets moved.

The rules state include a price. A price as I posted does not have to be a monetary value.

What I am saying is that since it seems if someone offers up what they are looking for as a price, you have interpreted that or been instructed to interpret that as an ad with no price.....when in fact by definition it is a price.
Actually the rules also state something that PP doesn't care about too much
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You must post an asking price!

This isn't ebay! Chances are if you post "best offer" you will be offered $3.00 for it, no matter what it is. We discourage bidding in threads, as it stretches out the post in a unnecessary manner and there are no protection policies in place regarding the order of posted bids vs. PM'd bids. If you choose to accept trades, please include some kind of direction as to what you would like in lieu of your item.
Which was put in in lieu of the last contest which was from muddypaws in this post.
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Actually the rules also state something that PP doesn't care about too much


Which was put in in lieu of the last contest which was from muddypaws in this post.
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=44805
That is exactly what I am talking about.

Someone had posted an XJ and did not want to sell it, he wanted to trade it for a yj or zj, it got moved to the pub.

Yes PP I am in agreement with you, I am not trying to convince you of anything. I think the rules need to be revised, the rules are left up to interpretation. My interpretation is that if you have an xj and you want to trade if for a yj you have included a price. You enforcement is taht he did not include a price and his thread was moved to the pub. If it states in the rules that the price must be in $$$ then there is no interpretation, it is either there or it is not. He may also list what he is willing to trade for, or that he would prefer trades, but he must also state a $$ amount as to about what he WOULD ask if he was selling outright, which he isn't, because he is looking for a trade....

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That is exactly what I am talking about.

Someone had posted an XJ and did not want to sell it, he wanted to trade it for a yj or zj, it got moved to the pub.

Yes PP I am in agreement with you, I am not trying to convince you of anything. I think the rules need to be revised, the rules are left up to interpretation. My interpretation is that if you have an xj and you want to trade if for a yj you have included a price. You enforcement is taht he did not include a price and his thread was moved to the pub. If it states in the rules that the price must be in $$$ then there is no interpretation, it is either there or it is not. He may also list what he is willing to trade for, or that he would prefer trades, but he must also state a $$ amount as to about what he WOULD ask if he was selling outright, which he isn't, because he is looking for a trade...

I guess being an informed member of GL I see that rule for trade in lieu of price. Which CC said he was in the process of fixing from that old post I put up. Which means that he did fix it and PP is just being an ass. Which means I'm using the word which too much but in the end you don't need a price if you're trading something.


... Or you could just throw down $1,000,000 when you want to trade. From the rules interpretation it doesn't need to be a relevant price, just a price.


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Then throw down $1,000,000 when you want to trade. From the rules it doesn't need to be a relevant price, just a price.


That's exactly what I tell people to do who take the time to ask me before they post. People who actually think of that on their own feel they have outsmarted me and make a smartass comment in the post, which I always find entertaining.
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