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Old April 22nd, 2007, 10:23 AM   #21
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This seams like an appropriate time to put this its a copy of an email I got a while back

but dont get me wrong Im all for the death penalty

I just think that it should be handled a little differently than giving the SOBs a whole bunch of appeals so that they can waste more taxpayer time and money I say if you get the death penalty give em death a bullet costs what about a quarter and if the first one dont kikll him right away OH WELL then he suffers for his crimes for a few min till you put another bullet in him



TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO, HE IS THE MARICOPA
COUNTY SHERIFF( ARIZONA ) AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. These are some of the reasons why:
Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona from
spending tens of million of dollars on another expensive prison
complex.

He has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.
He banned smoking and porno magazines in the jails, and took away
their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but "G" movies. He says:
"they're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can
assault innocent people when they leave." He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer's money.
Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.
He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order
that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but
only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel. When asked why the weather channel he replied: "so these morons will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs."
He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a
waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them, "This
isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back."
He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he
pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture
series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even
explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just
set a new record for June 2nd), the Associated Press reports: About 2,000
inmates living in a barbed- wire-surrounded tent encampment at the
Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their
government-issued pink boxer shorts.

On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were chatting
in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees. "This is hell. It feels
like we live in a furnace," said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. "It's inhumane."

Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches,is not one bit sympathetic. "Criminals should be punished for their
crimes

not live in luxury until it's time for parole, only to go out and
commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves."

Wednesday he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the
tents: "It's between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living
in tents too, and they have to walk all day in the sun, wearing full battle
gear and get shot at, and they have not committed any crimes, so shut your
damned mouths!"
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 11:25 AM   #22
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I like the way that they do it in Israel. If your family doesn't come and feed you you while you are in prison then you starve.

I think they should bring back the death penalty. But with a twist. They have been doing it all wrong for all these years. Their deaths need to be televised along with a short history. This is the bad person. This is the crime and how it affected so many people. See him/her squirm. See him/her die. This is the body being burned up and tilled under. And here are the vicitims pissing on the grave. :stan3: Don't do this or you will get the same fate. (And I'd prefer to see a return to slow evisceration as the proper way to kill them).
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 11:28 AM   #23
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Why is putting a murder/rapists to death a second wrong? It is a punishmnet for what they did. You might not like it but if you commit a crime that extreme that should be the punishment.

Someone that commits a violent crime against another human being does not deserve to live.

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They should be put to death. Why should our tax money goto some jerk-off that gets three-squares a day,read books,work-out, and get free-time. You do the crime you die.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 11:36 AM   #24
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as far as death penalty goes, i think if you take someones life, than yours needs to be taken. i also think those sick fucks that abuse kids should be put to death to
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 12:44 PM   #25
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I don't have a major problem with the death penalty, except the people who have been executed only later to be found innocent of the crime.

The other thing, though, to think about... if we take the life of someone, for taking someone else's life, how are we any different than the murderer, in the grand scheme of things?

"he killed in the name of _____ but we killed in the name of justice?"
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 12:52 PM   #26
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I think whatever crime you commit, is what should happen to you. Example...if you stab someone to death, you should be stabbed to death, if you torture someone, you should be tortured in the same way. I think it's fair. The only problem is when people are wrongly accused. So I also think that you should be put to death IF there is absolutely no question that you committed the crime in the first place.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 01:02 PM   #27
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I don't have a major problem with the death penalty, except the people who have been executed only later to be found innocent of the crime.

The other thing, though, to think about... if we take the life of someone, for taking someone else's life, how are we any different than the murderer, in the grand scheme of things?

"he killed in the name of _____ but we killed in the name of justice?"
because there's a difference between committing a crime and advocating a just punishment for a criminal.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 08:25 PM   #28
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I think whatever crime you commit, is what should happen to you. Example...if you stab someone to death, you should be stabbed to death, if you torture someone, you should be tortured in the same way. I think it's fair.

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Old April 22nd, 2007, 08:48 PM   #29
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 08:53 PM   #30
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my thoughts are give them life in prision with no porole and they are confined to there cells that would be way worse than death if u think about it they would rather die than sit and rot in prision so why not let them sit and rot and think about what they did for the rest of there lifes
Then we have to pay for them to sit and there and not contribute to Society.

On a side note, if you are a wicked enough person, the guys on the inside will get you. Either they will killl you, or drive you to kill yourself, either way I am cool with it.

My biggest anti-Death Penalty point is all the times someone has been found innocent that was on death row. That worries me, that they might be put to death and be innocent.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 10:12 PM   #31
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my thought is depends on the crime and the reason why? If you pulled a gun and shot one of my love ones with intent to kill them, then I would want you Dead. My loved one life is gone and they would not have the right to enjoy another breath on this earth in my mind.

I know it sounds harsh but thats how I would feel.
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Old April 22nd, 2007, 10:27 PM   #32
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I think whatever crime you commit, is what should happen to you. Example...if you stab someone to death, you should be stabbed to death, if you torture someone, you should be tortured in the same way. I think it's fair. The only problem is when people are wrongly accused. So I also think that you should be put to death IF there is absolutely no question that you committed the crime in the first place.
ive tried to tell people this for years
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Old April 23rd, 2007, 12:11 PM   #33
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Seems pretty clear to me, whether it applies to unborn babies or murderers.

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Old April 23rd, 2007, 12:27 PM   #34
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I am not against the death penalty. But I also like the idea of the tent city. Put there asses to work doing something productive. I also agree with no tv, gym equipment, ect. Hell send them oversees with a GPS in them and have them fight the war.
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BTW, it costs more to execute someone than it does to let them sit in prison their whole lives.

However, I do support the death penalty.
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Old April 24th, 2007, 09:27 AM   #36
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because there's a difference between committing a crime and advocating a just punishment for a criminal.
Who determines what is a "just punishment"? Just something to consider, but if God said "do not kill" and you "kill because it's a just punishment" do you figure he will accept your logic?
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Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

I think the death penalty should consist of the death of the murderer in the identical fashion it was done to the victim.

If cost is an issue, don't let them sit on death row for 20 years. There must be undeniable proof (DNA, etc.), and then take them outside the courtroom and put a .45 in the back of their head. Bullets don't cost much.

I'm sick of the fact that violent felons get treated like human beings and get more rights then law abiding civil citizens. People like Jeffrey Dahlmer are not human beings...they are monsters. Someone who kept human body parts in their own fridge should not be treated equally IMO.
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Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

I think the death penalty should consist of the death of the murderer in the identical fashion it was done to the victim.

If cost is an issue, don't let them sit on death row for 20 years. There must be undeniable proof (DNA, etc.), and then take them outside the courtroom and put a .45 in the back of their head. Bullets don't cost much.

I'm sick of the fact that violent felons get treated like human beings and get more rights then law abiding civil citizens. People like Jeffrey Dahlmer are not human beings...they are monsters. Someone who kept human body parts in their own fridge should not be treated equally IMO.
I respect your view of an "eye for an eye", but for any Christians reading this thread, the "eye for an eye" God of the old testament was replaced by "Forgiveness" when Jesus was here 2000 years ago.

An eye for an eye makes everyone blind. I personally like to look at the world with both eyes open.
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Old April 24th, 2007, 09:48 AM   #39
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I am not so sure of that, Jesus did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it.

Interesting read: http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5164
especially the verses in acts and romans

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Because your tax dollars pay for them to sit and "think" about what they did.

vwBoy, how would you like to send your money so that someone gets three square meals a day, cabled tv, a roof over there heads, and heat in the winter?

Now, this same money, could go to a program that provides children that live with no food, no heat, and/or no clothes?

Oh, also, because we are paying for this person to sit in jail, when you want to go to college, and get state aid, because you can't pay for it out of your pocket, the state tells you, we are sorry, but we have no money?

Or wait, you are a state employee, and for three years in a row, you are told that there is no money to pay for a raise?

But, yeah, let's let them sit in prison for the rest of their life. Tell you what, we will figure out away that that one person and all the money they are costing the state can be taken out of your paycheck every week, or every two weeks or whenever you get paid.


You tell me.
You realize that executing someone costs more than keeping them in prison for the rest of their life right?
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