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Old April 19th, 2007, 02:21 AM   #1
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Anyone ever venture into the Manistee National Forest on the west side of M-37 between Newaygo and White Cloud??? I was up there last weekend and the powerlines were nothing but water...the worst I have ever seen. How about venturing north of M-20 west of White Cloud? Those trails over there were pretty neat too. Anyhow I was just wondering if anyone wanted to set up a trail ride anytime to go over there and do some wheeling. As far as I have seen there is more mud over there than anything and hardly any hills. Heres a few pics of what we found last weekend. My buddy Jared has the TJ with 33 Stuckbirds, my cousin Dan with his F-350 with the 7.3 in it, my buddy RJ wit his '92 Chevy 1/2 ton with 33 'Claws (and soon to have a 383 Stroker in it) and yours truley is in the stock black XJ.


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Old April 19th, 2007, 07:21 AM   #2
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never been out there, but wouldnt mind.......I do have one thing to say though. how can you call your buddies tires "stuckbirds" when you are wheeling a stock rig? I run thornbirds and I love 'em. your buddy must not be doing something right if he keeps getting stuck

ok, now time for the flaming......(you are not the only one with something negative to say about thornbirds):tonka:
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Old April 19th, 2007, 04:15 PM   #3
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never been out there, but wouldnt mind.......I do have one thing to say though. how can you call your buddies tires "stuckbirds" when you are wheeling a stock rig? I run thornbirds and I love 'em. your buddy must not be doing something right if he keeps getting stuck

ok, now time for the flaming......(you are not the only one with something negative to say about thornbirds):tonka:
I cant wait to wheel with you and show ya how tires are soppose to hook up
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I cant wait to wheel with you and show ya how I will try and keep up
fixed it for ya
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If I didn't know better, I would say there is a "Lovers" quarrel going on between GS and TJ............................Throw in FFM and and you guys could have a cute little trio:tonka: :tonka: :tonka: :tonka:
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If I didn't know better, I would say there is a "Lovers" quarrel going on between GS and TJ............................Throw in FFM and and you guys could have a cute little trio:tonka: :tonka: :tonka: :tonka:
Thats big talk from a guy that dosnt wheel
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Old April 19th, 2007, 09:53 PM   #8
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Been out there a lot.

DON'T get cought on the powerlines (even the Centerline Rd portion) when it's wet, the DNR loves to write $500 dollar tickets there.

Did you find the trail that uses an old beaver damn as part of it?
(Again, DON'T get cought there, either)

So many swamps out there that the DNR keeps a pretty good eye on it, usually.

Sad.

It's a pretty sweet area though.
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Auctually Trail, we have been wheeling out there for about 4 years now and have only seen 1 DNR officer out there and we passed him, muddy vehicles and all and and he just waved to us...As for the powerlines when they are wet, they are always wet...so whats this mean?

This trail that uses and old beaver dam as part of it...theres a good possibility I found it cause I think I was stuck there (Is there a small birm on the right hand side of the trail, a creek that crosses the trail and a tag elder swamp on the other side? Cause if it does I was stuck there!!!!) ....I dropped a front tire off the edge of a small creek bank that crossed the trail and the water was up passed the middle of my wheel and I was on the frame....and the tire wasnt on the bottom of the creek yet.


As for GOTSAND?...Im not gunna touch that with a 10 foot pole....
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Auctually Trail, we have been wheeling out there for about 4 years now and have only seen 1 DNR officer out there and we passed him, muddy vehicles and all and and he just waved to us...As for the powerlines when they are wet, they are always wet...so whats this mean?

This trail that uses and old beaver dam as part of it...theres a good possibility I found it cause I think I was stuck there (Is there a small birm on the right hand side of the trail, a creek that crosses the trail and a tag elder swamp on the other side? Cause if it does I was stuck there!!!!) ....I dropped a front tire off the edge of a small creek bank that crossed the trail and the water was up passed the middle of my wheel and I was on the frame....and the tire wasnt on the bottom of the creek yet.


As for GOTSAND?...Im not gunna touch that with a 10 foot pole....

That's the spot!

GREAT trail, eh?

I'm not trying to be a downer, just had a couple of buddies who live there tell me there had been a LOT of tickets written on Centerline for wheelin in wetlands.

That info is, admittedly, 3-5 years old.
I just HATE seeing a fellow wheeler have trouble with the law when not expecting it. Just wanted to give a heads up.
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Great trail yea...more like impassable...LOL...Then try to get over that birm on the other side of that creek....LOL...right. I added a photo of my front tire when I dropped it off that creek bank too.


We dont dink around in those swamps by centerline or off the main powerlines cause we really dont have the right vehicles or equipment...we just hit the mud holes on the main powerline trails and some of the side trails branching off the powerlines. But if you go out on the right nights off of Gordon and 32nd ave and get on the powerlines there, you can have a lot of fun watching the drunk locals in their beater rigs or DD's or whatever else they can find to get stuck...one time me and a few of my buddies were back there tooling around and we saw some kids that had brought their Enduro car from the fair in Fremont and got it stuck in the mud on purpose, blew the motor up, stripped the fuel cell out and left it in the hole....we stood there and watched this whole program...the things ya see there.


BTW thanks for the heads up with the DNR info

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Great trail yea...more like impassable...LOL...Then try to get over that birm on the other side of that creek....LOL...right. I added a photo of my front tire when I dropped it off that creek bank too.


We dont dink around in those swamps by centerline or off the main powerlines cause we really dont have the right vehicles or equipment...we just hit the mud holes on the main powerline trails and some of the side trails branching off the powerlines. But if you go out on the right nights off of Gordon and 32nd ave and get on the powerlines there, you can have a lot of fun watching the drunk locals in their beater rigs or DD's or whatever else they can find to get stuck...one time me and a few of my buddies were back there tooling around and we saw some kids that had brought their Enduro car from the fair in Fremont and got it stuck in the mud on purpose, blew the motor up, stripped the fuel cell out and left it in the hole....we stood there and watched this whole program...the things ya see there.


BTW thanks for the heads up with the DNR info
Its things like this that give us wheelers a bad name:chiefwoohaw:
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I've never been south of 20 up there, but I've been on some trails up near Nichols lake that have great mudholes in them. I've only found one area with hills to climb, everything else is low land.
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That it is hotwired....it is flatter than a pancake up there...beautiful scenry(sp?) up there though with all of the swamps and small lakes you see along the trails.

There are some good mud holes south of 20 about 5 miles west of M-37 and those are fun to play around in. Where have you found places to climb hills at north of 20?


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FYI Trail...we had no idea who these kids were just a few local idiots
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Its things like this that give us wheelers a bad name:chiefwoohaw:

x2 . . .

That's when we have to educate them or turn them in.
They're not our friends if they're leavin it behind.
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Or pull it out and take it home for scrap.
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That's TRUE!

I keep forgetting that the price of metal is WAY up!

It shows too.
We don't find ANY appliances in the woods for the Clean Up any more.
We used to get 25- 30 of 'em every year.
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[QUOTE=99CherokeeClassic;524597] Where have you found places to climb hills at north of 20?/QUOTE]


Theres a small area South of Bitely, a trail drops into a deep gulley and there are multiple climbs in it. Otherwise North of Walkup lake there are a few trails with smal climbs in them, only challenging because they're muddy.
Where do you find the trails South of 20?
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If you know the area there is a snowmobile trail that comes out of the state land down there and heads into White Cloud...if you take the snowmobile trail (which is a designated road) into the state land. Or you can take M-37 south to 40th ave which is about 5-10 miles north of Newaygo and take that west to Gordon Ave which this is by Briar Hill Golf Course, turn right off of 40th onto Gordon Ave heading north and this will take you to where Gordon makes a sharp left hand turn and turns into 32nd Ave and the 2 entrances to the state land are on the north side of the road just down the first hill on 32nd Ave.



Is this area south of Bitely State land? What is the territory like?



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I'll probably get flamed for this, but I don't know who owns the land. I used to ride motorcycles back there twenty years ago. Part of the trails are now a game preserve so they can't be used anymore, but the hills are on open trails yet. If your going North on 37 turn left at the gas station in Brohman and go West accross the railroad tracks, the trails spread out from there. When you get back into the woods about a mile the trail goes North and South. The South trail leads to the game preserve so don't go that way. Most of the trails are old two tracks, nothing special, no mud, rocks, etc. the only real fun area is the gulley with the climbs. Thanks for thedirections to the trails too.
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