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Old April 18th, 2007, 06:31 AM   #41
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yesterday, I heard that a county I believe to be australia was going to dump 120,000 lbs of septic materal into an old volcano crater. Thus creating australia I mean a crap pool in the crater of the old volcano. would this make the eruption of Mount Vesuvius seem like nothing and the closest town would end up like Pompeii only called poop/pee
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From another post, but fits here too:

I think this graph says alot:



Either Pirates were protecting the environment and their "mysterious" disappearance (probably a plot by the Republicans) has caused this "global warming"

or

Global warming is not only killing Polar bears, but worse yet Pirates.
Pirates would have been Republicans. They steal and keep it for themselves. Democrats steal and give it to needy crack whores and prostitutes.
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Old April 18th, 2007, 02:02 PM   #43
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Um, the global warming folks think sea levels will rise by 20 feet. How is 3-6 feet sufficient?
Average temperature in Antarctica is -37C, so the ice there is in no danger of melting. In fact in most parts of the continent it never gets above freezing.

At the other end of the world, the North Pole, the ice is not nearly as thick as at the South Pole. The ice floats on the Arctic Ocean. If it melted sea levels would not be affected.



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Question, do you guys believe in global warming ( man made or otherwise in general ) as opposed to man-made global warming?
Yes I believe in global warming the Ice Caps on Mars are receeding. I just believe there needs to be more research before making costly decisions.
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Average temperature in Antarctica is -37C, so the ice there is in no danger of melting. In fact in most parts of the continent it never gets above freezing.

At the other end of the world, the North Pole, the ice is not nearly as thick as at the South Pole. The ice floats on the Arctic Ocean. If it melted sea levels would not be affected.





Yes I believe in global warming the Ice Caps on Mars are receeding. I just believe there needs to be more research before making costly decisions.
WHOLLY F'ING CRAP!

You have just lost all credibility. Portions of each iceberg/icefloe are under water. It is called displacement, just like a boat. So yes, if the ice caps melted, we would be hosed.

Wow.
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Really, this discussion goes the way of religion, ultimately. Its just like faith in Jesus or God. What does it hurt you to beleive? Nothing. What can it cost you if you dont? Everything. There is absolutely no reason not to want to be conservative regarding pollution and our effect on the planet.
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Old April 18th, 2007, 10:54 PM   #46
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WHOLLY F'ING CRAP!

You have just lost all credibility. Portions of each iceberg/icefloe are under water. It is called displacement, just like a boat. So yes, if the ice caps melted, we would be hosed.

Wow.
Them damn asshole high school teachers, they told me some bullshit about water expanding when it freezes.


fill a glass with ice and water right up to where the surface of the water is over the rim of the glass, right before it overflows. when the ice melts will:

A) the water level drop
B) the glass overflow
c) level remain the same
d) we don't use CUBES.....
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Them damn asshole high school teachers, they told me some bullshit about water expanding when it freezes.


fill a glass with ice and water right up to where the surface of the water is over the rim of the glass, right before it overflows. when the ice melts will:

A) the water level drop
B) the glass overflow
c) level remain the same
d) we don't use CUBES.....
Maybe I did not explain my input clearly. You are correct. Water does expand as it freezes. So if you fill a cup to the top with ice cubes and it melts, your water level will be below the cup at the end. You are right. But what if you have ice cubes over the top of the cup? They can sit there unmelted for all eternity if the temp is cold enough.

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WHOLLY F'ING CRAP!

You have just lost all credibility. Portions of each iceberg/icefloe are under water. It is called displacement, just like a boat. So yes, if the ice caps melted, we would be hosed.

Wow.
Try Again!

Fill a bowl with ice and water and see how long before it runs over and report back.

Also what about the average temp of Antarctica (-37C)? What will cause ice to melt sooner?

I may be wrong and better get my boat ready

Again I want clean air and water for my kids!
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Anyone watching 20/20 tonight? Our effects on the planet. Coral bleaching and droughts. Pollutants. Just watch have an open mind.
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Old April 21st, 2007, 10:36 PM   #50
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Really, this discussion goes the way of religion, ultimately. Its just like faith in Jesus or God. What does it hurt you to beleive? Nothing. What can it cost you if you dont? Everything. There is absolutely no reason not to want to be conservative regarding pollution and our effect on the planet.
Not exactly. I imagine if there were 0 cost associated with all the green policies then there would be no debate. Unfortunately there are costs associated. So the question becomes "Do you believe enough (without any cause and effect data, because all the current data is coincidental) that Man is responsible for global warming and capable of reversing the affects in order to invest money and resources?"
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Try Again!

Fill a bowl with ice and water and see how long before it runs over and report back.

Also what about the average temp of Antarctica (-37C)? What will cause ice to melt sooner?

I may be wrong and better get my boat ready

Again I want clean air and water for my kids!
one thing...those ice cubes that you put in the bowl, those are under water, floating at the top, but not above the water. The icebergs are under and up out of the water, therefore they will melt into the water and cause the water to rise. it's not that difficult to see that. for your theory to work, we wouldn't be able to see iceburgs or the icecaps above the water.
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one thing...those ice cubes that you put in the bowl, those are under water, floating at the top, but not above the water. The icebergs are under and up out of the water, therefore they will melt into the water and cause the water to rise. it's not that difficult to see that. for your theory to work, we wouldn't be able to see iceburgs or the icecaps above the water.

Yes but the amount of ice sticking out of the water is miniscule compared to the amount beneath the surface.
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has anyone ever thought of the fact that this planet has been thgough several ice ages in the past. It has to warm up for the ice to melt maybe just maybe we are coming up to one of the warmer times before it cools back down to the next ice age thousands of years from now. Yes the average temp is up from were it was 100 years ago the earth is warming I personally dont feel it is caused primarily by humans.
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one thing...those ice cubes that you put in the bowl, those are under water, floating at the top, but not above the water. The icebergs are under and up out of the water, therefore they will melt into the water and cause the water to rise. it's not that difficult to see that. for your theory to work, we wouldn't be able to see iceburgs or the icecaps above the water.
Titanic comes to mind, or is ice lighter in nature?

If there floating it won't change the level at all. I bring up Antarctica because it's icecaps are on land. But it's not gonna melt a whole bunch at the temp there.

I want to know why the media/hollywood/free thinkers won't admit it should be discussed, I guess nothing new will ever be learned or designed again.
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has anyone ever thought of the fact that this planet has been thgough several ice ages in the past. It has to warm up for the ice to melt maybe just maybe we are coming up to one of the warmer times before it cools back down to the next ice age thousands of years from now. Yes the average temp is up from were it was 100 years ago the earth is warming I personally dont feel it is caused primarily by humans.
you don't think that the amounts of pollution we put into the air could have ANYTHING to do with it? Think of all the crap we put into the air from our industries and automobiles, its been proven to be harmful to an environment and the people living in it, why is it such a stretch to believe it could be harming our planet as well?
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you don't think that the amounts of pollution we put into the air could have ANYTHING to do with it? Think of all the crap we put into the air from our industries and automobiles, its been proven to be harmful to an environment and the people living in it, why is it such a stretch to believe it could be harming our planet as well?
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Believing something doesn't make it true. You have to prove it scientifically.

True science is based on making a theory i.e.: MAN is causing the earth to warm. Then by finding evidence either supporting or defeating your claim through observation and experimentation.

Yes the earth, on average, is 1 degree warmer than it was 200 years ago(aprox.) Where is the proof that MAN caused this "warming"?

Is the supporting data peer reviewed and generally accepted by the scientific community?

Who paid for the study? Did they expect a certian result for their monitary contribution?

I have not seen anything that links man to global warming that meets the minimum criteria. It's a good theory but that is all that it is, a theory.

If I have to believe it's true without clear evidence then it's just like religion; a global warming cult, and I'm not gonna' wear the purple nike's.
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has anyone ever thought of the fact that this planet has been thgough several ice ages in the past. It has to warm up for the ice to melt maybe just maybe we are coming up to one of the warmer times before it cools back down to the next ice age thousands of years from now. Yes the average temp is up from were it was 100 years ago the earth is warming I personally dont feel it is caused primarily by humans.
This is "sort of" my point.

In other words, many factors may cause changes in temperature including cycles that have NOTHING to do with man. This does not mean that man is not the cause, just that there are other possible causes that have nothing to do with man. Since the current data is coincidental (not testable in the short-term to establish a cause / effect relationship) any human theory is just an assumption. And you know what happens when you ASSUME. It just makes an ASS out of U and ME.

I personally am going to stick with the only graphed data I have seen in this thread. It is the government's fault for eliminating Pirates that has caused global warming.
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If Sova would shut up the earth's temp would go back down to normal.
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If Sova would shut up the earth's temp would go back down to normal.
btw, just sold my nylint to a really nice guy last night. he came to my apartment to pick it up AND gave me cash.
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btw, just sold my nylint to a really nice guy last night. he came to my apartment to pick it up AND gave me cash.
Good for you. It would have been sold in under a week if you had even remotely worked with me on it...
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