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Old February 1st, 2006, 05:26 PM   #1
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Default Lightweight Diesel Engines 2.0L - 4.0L

Since it won't let me delete me post I'll just edit the whole thing.

Original post was questioning where to get small diesel engines 2.0 - 4.0L in size with decent weight and enough power for highway use. Shortly after posting this, I did find some.

So I figured I'd make the post on where some of these elusive engines hide,

http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/00/index.jsp

^thus far it is the best and only ones I've come across. VERY lightweight, insane torque, and enough horsepower to cruise on the street. Somehow got to them from Detroit Diesels home page.. still can't figure out how. Anyways, check them out.

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Old February 1st, 2006, 05:50 PM   #2
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Cool, looks really cheap too.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 07:06 PM   #3
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VM diesels are what Chrysler puts in the Mini Vans and Kj's. I would go with a 4.3 out of a Pontiac or or Olds front wheel drive. they have decent power for the size
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So are these engines any good? reliable, effecient, etc.

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Is that 4.3 out of an Olds or Pontiac a diesel?
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yep they made them for about 6 years, there not bad for what they are. lots of Pontiac 6000 and Bonnys had them
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the other really good engine to find is a `81-`82 2.2 Izuzu diesel out of the S10's or Luv trucks, they are built proof if you only need 4 cylinders
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I was hoping to squeeze ~250HP ~400 ft lbs out of one. Planning on a light pickup sleeper/tow rig. Small size, lightweight, lots of torque and only 6 cylinders to keep the insurance down.
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hey capt, would you be interested in a chevy crew cab 2wd with a 471 detroiter and an allison 4 spd?

it will pull your house off its foundations its got so much torque

if so I will try and get more info in a couple of days for you.
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unfortunately I can't. Just recently employed and have too many other things and projects to pay off at the moment. I'm gathering as much information as I can and exploring my options and think of better solutions while I have time. I'm planning on starting the truck project maybe late next winter (essentially a year) by the time I have my current projects finished and a little balloon of money saved up. sorry.

I'm also interested in the really small diesels they have. 1.5L - 2.0L for my Saturn and my brother's (formerly mine) Cavalier. Try to get super mileage out of them, maybe try to convert a few cars over summer for some $$$ depending on how much work it looks/turns out to be. My brother's Cavalier's engine is dying but the car is pristine (35,000mi, 1989. Grandpa let it sit for too many years), so I'm looking for options for it too.

I'm writing them an E-mail to get some more information about the engines and maybe post a list with price, warranty, what they come with, etc.
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I don't think "very lightweight" and "powerful diesels" (especially 6 cylinders) aren't words that usually go togther. It's usually one or the other.

Maybe check out a 3.9L Cummins (4BT), look for them in bread trucks and such.

Ford use to build either Tempos or Escorts with Mazda diesels, I've seen a few go for cheap but don't know how they hold up.

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The VR 630 DOHC engine is only a V6 and 3.0L and makes about 220Hp @ 4,000RPM and 360 ft lbs @ 1,800RPM, while only weighing about as much as a 302. Thats a pretty decent to me. I kept looking for a cummins engine and couldn't find anything on them. You know where a page is with some specs?

Oh, and their 1.5L 3cyl makes more power than my current 2.0L I4 gasoline engine.
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not sure on the size, but i have heard the yota's diesels are very reliable.. not sure if they are light weight, or powerfull, only heard little blips here and there about them
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When I was on small car platform, we were working on the diesel PT cruisers. Had a 2.2 liter mercedes turbodiesel, 150 hp, 240 ft'lbs. Drove SO much nicer than the 2.4 liter gas motor.

Sigh, if only we could have diesel like that here. Think of all the guys buying 4 cyl s-10s.. toss in a small diesel, get 30+ mpg and 200+ ft-lbs.
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The trouble with the Toyota diesels is availability here.

There was the 2L and 2L-T (non-turbo & turbo) which I forget the size, 2.2 or 2.4 liter I think. They were available in canada for sure, not 100% sure if they were around in the US or not, but they are around in the used market today for sure, but rare. When they show up on ebay, they are pricey...

I've head the 3L-T is a much better improvement, but I think that wasn't available here in the light trucks.

Hehehe, look at the Top Gear video of the poor little toyota diesel getting destroyed and still running..
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