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Old January 31st, 2006, 09:11 PM   #1
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Default So, my great plan didn't work out...t-case/trans issues

305/999/flipped300.

The front driveshaft is going to hit the 999 pan..

Anyone know what the turbo350/400 pan width is on the driverside? If I remember right it should be about 3" shorter then the 999.

The 231 barely clears the pan anyways, and I'm guessing that most 999 transmissions had a passenger side t-case.
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Old January 31st, 2006, 09:27 PM   #2
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Next time you are partying at Swampjeeps house, go crawl under the J-5 and measure... he's got the chevy motor/th350/dana 300, only his is right side up..

Why not just do it passenger side and get a older 44 for the front end?
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Old January 31st, 2006, 09:38 PM   #3
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Next time you are partying at Swampjeeps house, go crawl under the J-5 and measure... he's got the chevy motor/th350/dana 300, only his is right side up..

Why not just do it passenger side and get a older 44 for the front end?
Because I already have some good axles that are built how I like, driver side drop
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Old January 31st, 2006, 09:39 PM   #4
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Next time you are partying at Swampjeeps house, go crawl under the J-5 and measure... he's got the chevy motor/th350/dana 300, only his is right side up..

Why not just do it passenger side and get a older 44 for the front end?
Because he doesn't want to do something somewhat common that everyone might be able to help him with when he has issues. He would rather blaze new territory and baffle us with his odd choices and questions.
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Old January 31st, 2006, 09:39 PM   #5
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Stubborn.

Get a passenger side axle. How much is in it that you can't transfer?


Get it together and wheel it.
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Old January 31st, 2006, 09:43 PM   #6
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Because he doesn't want to do something somewhat common that everyone might be able to help him with when he has issues. He would rather blaze new territory and baffle us with his odd choices and questions.

umm. If it was that uncommon, they wouldn't have a flip kit for the 300.
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Old January 31st, 2006, 09:43 PM   #7
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by how much, can you do what hosejockey did and run a long slip driveshaft with the slip on the trans side so that it's skinnier and can clear the pan?
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Old January 31st, 2006, 09:46 PM   #8
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by how much, can you do what hosejockey did and run a long slip driveshaft with the slip on the trans side so that it's skinnier and can clear the pan?
Its about 1" into the pan,

:tonka: Hosejockey and Strangler were there when I put the t-case on there... The basic consensus from them is "I'm f**ked"
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Old January 31st, 2006, 10:15 PM   #9
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HoseJockey is running a Chevy Front 60, so it's Passenger drop, IIRC.
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Old January 31st, 2006, 10:48 PM   #10
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looks like I'm doing a two piecer.


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...&highlight=999

wonder how much two piece shafts cost to have custom made.
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Old January 31st, 2006, 10:51 PM   #11
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HoseJockey is running a Chevy Front 60, so it's Passenger drop, IIRC.


Oh my goodness - what happens to be in For Sale right now?!
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Old February 1st, 2006, 12:13 AM   #12
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Save yourself some headaches and some money and run passanger drop and unflipped.
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Old February 1st, 2006, 12:21 AM   #13
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i dont even think a 2 peice shaft is going to help you

if i was in your shoes. (well they prolly wouldnt fit) but if i was i would just get a chevy trans th400 or th350 and run that with a flipped 300
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Is your motor offset in your engine bay? I had to shift my motor 1" toward the drivers side to clear the vaccuum port on the TH400 with my DS.
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Old February 2nd, 2006, 10:12 PM   #15
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looks like I'm doing a two piecer.


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...&highlight=999

wonder how much two piece shafts cost to have custom made.
I think that is kinda sweet. sure its gonna be pricey and have more parts to potentially break, but it would be different.
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Old February 2nd, 2006, 10:24 PM   #16
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maybe go with a manual :) no tranny pan to hit!
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Old February 3rd, 2006, 05:51 PM   #17
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maybe go with a manual :) no tranny pan to hit!

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i think manuals have there place and thats with 4 cylenders or low powered 6 cylender motors

autos are the way to go with v8s and decently powered 6 cylenders. even the bling bling 4 cylenders seem to work with autos in buggys and jeeps
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lol this debate again? Auto's take all the fun out of driving.
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Hehehe..

The biggest key which is so overlooked is correct gearing. Gotta think like a drag racer here(or other autocrosser)..

ITs so common for people to think about gearing in terms of crawl ratio. However, with a manual, you really need to match the powerband and redline to the gearing.

Most hillclimbs needs a certian speed, in my old CJ, I found 22 mph to be the magic number, for my ~5000 rpm redline, this was 1st gear low. The key, then, was to gear it to be low as possible without ever having to shift another gear on a climb (or in the mud, or whatever).

My TJ in 2nd gear low would redline at about 18mph. That little difference was a killer, I used to have to shift to 3rd, where I did not have enough power to get the climb done half the time. Caused me some damage on a nasty hillclimb on a Jeep jambo, once, went into a tree sliding backwards down the hill.

And auto can shift on the power and not lose momentum, the stick needs to be geared much more closely to the powerband, I think.

I was very happy with my old 3 speed stick/dana 20, terrible crawl, but the gears were perfect. I almost never shifted it.
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Most hillclimbs needs a certian speed, in my old CJ, I found 22 mph to be the magic number, for my ~5000 rpm redline, this was 1st gear low. The key, then, was to gear it to be low as possible without ever having to shift another gear on a climb (or in the mud, or whatever).

My TJ in 2nd gear low would redline at about 18mph. That little difference was a killer, I used to have to shift to 3rd, where I did not have enough power to get the climb done half the time. Caused me some damage on a nasty hillclimb on a Jeep jambo, once, went into a tree sliding backwards down the hill.
You have time to look at your speedo when wheeling?
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