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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:07 PM   #1
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If so, where can I find info on market trends and the like?
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:16 PM   #2
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Just ask CC. I thought evenyone just copied what he does.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:20 PM   #3
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I don't know but I'm sure there are some wheel experts here, there's sure as fukc experts about everything else, so why not wheels, too?
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:26 PM   #4
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Is there a benefit to larger rims outside of the Bling Factor?

-Fuel Efficiency
-Tire wear
-Etc......
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:27 PM   #5
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Larger how? Width or diameter?
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:28 PM   #6
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Larger how? Width or diameter?
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:32 PM   #7
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pee pee size = +++++


Other than that, I am sure that there are some benefits, there has to be something to do with making a harder compound tire so that the sidewalls dont flex as much (low profile homies) which would in turn effect how the tread wears.


I don't see a 33x12.5x17

wearing any different, getting any more/less fuel mileage, or anything else except for making your penis larger.. in your own mind...

than a 33x12.5x15
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:48 PM   #8
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I thought the bigger the tire the bigger the pee pee. Damn it. Now I need bigger wheels.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:54 PM   #9
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The larger the wheel diameter, the more stress is incurred to the hub, but the stronger the wheel itself is. Now, this typically reduces you overall sidewall which limits "forming" ability of the tire to resist puncture on rocks etc... when aired down. Then you got the whole unsprung weight business if you want to get technical.
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The larger the wheel diameter, the more stress is incurred to the hub, but the stronger the wheel itself is. Now, this typically reduces you overall sidewall which limits "forming" ability of the tire to resist puncture on rocks etc... when aired down. Then you got the whole unsprung weight business if you want to get technical.
Lothos, thanks

THis is not for the Jeep. I am meeting with a company tomorrow that wants to bring their product to the states. I know nothing about rims except spinners make me laugh. Any help is appreciated.

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Old January 24th, 2006, 02:08 PM   #11
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THis is not for the Jeep. I am meeting with a company tomorrow that wants to bring their product to the states. I know nothing about rims except spinners make me laugh. Any help is appreciated.

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I'm no engineer though. But thats the physics idea I get from the perspective. Larger diameter wheel center area means its relatively weaker if not reinforced. Reinforce it and the next weakest link becomes the hub assembly or axle end.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 02:16 PM   #12
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Is there a benefit to larger rims outside of the Bling Factor?

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larger rim for same diameter tire generally gives better handling due to less sidewall to flex.

this will also translate to a harsher ride due to less sidewall flex.

very low profile tires have great street handling but are more easily damaged, because there is less tire flex available to absorb the impact.

larger rims give more room for larger brakes

larger tires seem to wear less because they have fewer revolutions per mile.

the wear is often similar, if you were to look at it as the ammount of tread lost in a dust form or similar. bigger tire= more tread.

I could go on, but I have to go add wear to my oversized bfg's on 15x8 rims with more offset than stock to help stability by widining my track width.

I wonder how much tire wear the bfg's will see on my round trip to/ from Phys. therapy and back in the given weather conditions?
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Old January 24th, 2006, 02:39 PM   #13
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Larger diameter = low profile tires = better handling.

Larger diameter = heavier rim = slower acceleration


I would tell them that anything painted Lime Green should sell real good...
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Old January 24th, 2006, 04:21 PM   #14
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with out being an expert a hot trend for the dub crowd is black out wheels with chrome trim ring and center cap. A few years ago no respecting brotha would get black wheels it was all about how many spokes your daytons had, or how much shine the chrome had. Painted wheels are becoming cool it seems. Thats all i can add that hasn't been said in terms of the function of bigger wheels.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 04:38 PM   #15
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Larger wheels are a lot heavier. requiring a brake upgrade and lowering vehical acceleration. with a smaller sideall u will get a lil less dry surface traction due to the sidewal not being able to flex a little bit on launch..
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If low profiles were the best for traction, every race team would be running 22's with rubber band tires. However this is not so. Sidewall flex improves traction on cornering. NASCAR, road racing, F1, etc. all have pretty decent size side walls, because it improves road grip.
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If low profiles were the best for traction, every race team would be running 22's with rubber band tires. However this is not so. Sidewall flex improves traction on cornering. NASCAR, road racing, F1, etc. all have pretty decent size side walls, because it improves road grip.
Well, having run with road race and autocross teams, I can say that in our classes, we were limited to specific wheel diameters.


Its one of those things of diminishing returns. Low profile to a point. Its a balance of getting stiff sidewalls for cornering, good contact patch, low wheel inertia, and good durability.
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Well, having run with road race and autocross teams, I can say that in our classes, we were limited to specific wheel diameters.


Its one of those things of diminishing returns. Low profile to a point. Its a balance of getting stiff sidewalls for cornering, good contact patch, low wheel inertia, and good durability.
Right, because the rear tires off a top fuel dragster aren't going to work to well for cornering.
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like said above, larger wheels mean more unsprung weight, which affects handling and ride. The larger weight also slows your acceleration. That being said less sidewall means better handling but also more tire damage to potholes.

Other disadvantages are less obvious. Each OEM validates thier ABS, traction control, and suspension tuning to specific tire and wheel packages. Altering the size and width of the tire, not to mention the overall rim size plays havoc on these systems and decreases thier efficiency. Dont forget too, that the added wheight of the tire-wheel package will also affect braking the same way it affects acceleration.


Now that i've said this i'm gonna go get a price on some 33's for the cherokee.
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like said above, larger wheels mean more unsprung weight, which affects handling and ride. The larger weight also slows your acceleration. That being said less sidewall means better handling but also more tire damage to potholes.

Other disadvantages are less obvious. Each OEM validates thier ABS, traction control, and suspension tuning to specific tire and wheel packages. Altering the size and width of the tire, not to mention the overall rim size plays havoc on these systems and decreases thier efficiency. Dont forget too, that the added wheight of the tire-wheel package will also affect braking the same way it affects acceleration.


Now that i've said this i'm gonna go get a price on some 33's for the cherokee.
Well lucky me i wasn't dumb enough to get ABS and traction control on my vehicle. *Are those even options on TJ's? I got mine pretty much barebone. *
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