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Old February 26th, 2007, 11:38 AM   #1
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Here's the transcript:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2505412.shtml

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http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/0...ers-speak-out/

Basically a group of soldiers who are proud to serve their country, but don't feel they are doing the right thing in Iraq and want to get out.

"Just because we volunteered for the military doesn't mean we volunteered to put our lives in unnecessary harm and to carry out missions that are illogical and immoral." -Marine Sgt. Liam Madden

How dare they?!
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Old February 26th, 2007, 11:40 AM   #2
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P.S. they aren't liberal hippies.
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Old February 26th, 2007, 12:57 PM   #3
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Third time I have read a post from you today and thought "Who cares?"

If they don't agree with the war it is suddenly wrong? I got mad at this ass at work today (not bio or hacksaw), does this mean that the rest of world thinks he's an ass too?
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Third time I have read a post from you today and thought "Who cares?"

If they don't agree with the war it is suddenly wrong? I got mad at this ass at work today (not bio or hacksaw), does this mean that the rest of world thinks he's an ass too?
i suppose you could say "who cares?" to a majority of the things posted here or in the pub. should you go through all of them and say "who cares?"
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i suppose you could say "who cares?" to a majority of the things posted here or in the pub. should you go through all of them and say "who cares?"

I would but most other people don't post the OPINIONS of a few people as a FACT written in blood by god himself.
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Old February 26th, 2007, 04:35 PM   #6
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I would but most other people don't post the OPINIONS of a few people as a FACT written in blood by god himself.
wtf are you talking about? I said it was a group of soldiers...not the entire American Army.
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They have the right to speak out, and since they have seen whats actually going on there we should probably pay attention to what they have to say.

But in the end the decision makers have to be looking at the "big picture", not at the bad experiances of a few soldiers.

I was not a big supporter of this war from the begining, but a majority felt that it was worth starting, so we shouldn't just decide that it isn't worth finnishing just because it's not going as well as expected.
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If they were smart they'd keep their mouths shut. All of this anti-war bullshit is just making it harder for soldiers in Iraq. It trickles down the lines to the terrorist groups over there that no one in this country, or even the soldiers support the war. It only makes the terrorists or whatever you want to call them hope, and make them fight harder because they think it will end sooner.
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If they were smart they'd keep their mouths shut. All of this anti-war bullshit is just making it harder for soldiers in Iraq. It trickles down the lines to the terrorist groups over there that no one in this country, or even the soldiers support the war. It only makes the terrorists or whatever you want to call them hope, and make them fight harder because they think it will end sooner.
Hey Republican talking piece, the word you're looking for is "embolden"
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It only makes the terrorists or whatever you want to call them hope, and make them fight harder because they think it will end sooner.
But take a step back and look at whats been going on over there since, oh, about the begining of recorded history. These people have been fighting one another for hundreds, or even thousands of years. I don't really think how long we'll stay is even something they consider.
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Hey Republican talking piece, the word you're looking for is "embolden"
Why is it that you think I am a Republican? I consider myself moderate. I may lean a little more to the right, but if you talk about the issues that divide both sides I am right in the middle.

Thanks for the tip with the word. Ferris State does not provide such fine schooling such as Central. Ferris usually lets students make up their mind instead of a bunch of ranting professors do it for you.
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Holy shit....do you just spend your worthless life searching for bullshit on the web to post in this forum?
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Just did a quick search....a small handfull of posts in the pub, 2 or 3 in the marketplace, and 5 fucking pages of posts in Politics, Government, or Religion. And that's just that far back...could go further but I bet it would be the same.

Please go find another forum. The is Greatlakes4x4

Do you even have a 4x4? WTF?
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Holy fukc only 12 of your 1000+ posts about 4x4's. And the last one was back in August of 2006.
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Why is it that you think I am a Republican? I consider myself moderate. I may lean a little more to the right, but if you talk about the issues that divide both sides I am right in the middle.

Thanks for the tip with the word. Ferris State does not provide such fine schooling such as Central. Ferris usually lets students make up their mind instead of a bunch of ranting professors do it for you.
its just that that's what they have all been saying lately, this or that emboldens the terrorists...i don't actually mean that you are, its just that that's all they've been saying lately...
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Holy fukc only 12 of your 1000+ posts about 4x4's. And the last one was back in August of 2006.
so?

this is just the most fun for me since my jeep is out of commission at the moment.

i still have school, work, my girlfriend, and my friends to keep me busy. i just do this when I'm bored. Actually, if you look at my post count and your post count, we can really see who doesn't have anything else better to do

btw I know you're just trying to think about how to turn this into an abortion argument, the wheels in your head are turning...

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Why is it that you think I am a Republican? I consider myself moderate. I may lean a little more to the right, but if you talk about the issues that divide both sides I am right in the middle.

Thanks for the tip with the word. Ferris State does not provide such fine schooling such as Central. Ferris usually lets students make up their mind instead of a bunch of ranting professors do it for you.
also, by the way, i don't have any of these ranting professors that you're talking about, but I do know what you mean, Central is faaaaaar superior.
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also, by the way, i don't have any of these ranting professors that you're talking about, but I do know what you mean, Central is faaaaaar superior.
Yea, if you're going into education. If you're going into a real industry having to do with technical things, go to Ferris.
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