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Old February 23rd, 2007, 06:16 PM   #1
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Default Not a Zuk but A Geo...Solid axle info anyone?

Anyone have any web pages saved for lifts or solid axle conversions on a Geo Tracker?

Looking for budget stuff, not high dollar links and coilovers.
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heres a good post over on zuwharrie.

http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content?topic=24216.0

to do it on the cheap throw a sammy axil under it with the diff out of your tracker. 2 inch wheelspacers and sammy leafsprings or yj depending on how high you want it. but there r alot of different setups on the link. like 9 pages.
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heres a good post over on zuwharrie.

http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content?topic=24216.0

to do it on the cheap throw a sammy axil under it with the diff out of your tracker. 2 inch wheelspacers and sammy leafsprings or yj depending on how high you want it. but there r alot of different setups on the link. like 9 pages.

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heres a good post over on zuwharrie.

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to do it on the cheap throw a sammy axil under it with the diff out of your tracker. 2 inch wheelspacers and sammy leafsprings or yj depending on how high you want it. but there r alot of different setups on the link. like 9 pages.
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I'd re-evaluate using an axle swap, and go with an IFS linkage.


You need to address the steering issues...the box gets replaced and new tie rods and all that. Then there is the brake work that has to be converted. Don't foget about fabbing up the shock mounts and what not...and buying the shocks.

Then you have to adapt the steering lines to fit the new box installed. And adapt the steering shaft to mate to the new box.

Going to have to do something with the driveshafts...even the 3 inch lifts need some kind of spacer or adapter...dunno what it does but you'll have to mod the shafts to work with the new axle flanges.

That's not including finding and buying the sami axles, leafs, u-bolts, and plates. I would guess that if you got a set of axles from a bone yard, they would probably need all new brakes put on them...so more money.

Then the metal you will need to weld in to make the spring mounts and front crossmember. Bolts, nuts, bushings, and shackels.

All the little things that it seems people don't think about when doing something like this. It's not that it can't be done...but simply saying it's cheaper is, IMHO, incorrect. If you were very thrifty, and could wait till the right deal came along for this or that part, then maybe. But that isn't reality for most.




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Depending on your wants/needs, I'd go with a set of Toyota axles(good up to 39s if you build them right), or find a widetrack CJ dana 30 front(maybe up to 33s). Or waggie dana 44s front and rear.

Check out the toyota truck forum on pirate4x4, the FAQ has tons of Toyota info. Toy front axles are 55.5" WMS/WMS, but can be made to be 58.5 with a swap to the IFS hubs. Jeep WT dana 30s are also about 56" wide, and would be lighter than a toy front.

Budget wise, leaf springs are your friend, a pair of stock YJ or rear Toyota(80s era) springs would probably be plenty for SOA configuration (Toy axles are SOA, Dana 30s as you know are SUA), or wagoneer springs for SUA. The Toy and Waggie springs have an offset pin which will help your approach angle. Either way, your front shaft isn't huge, I'd go front mounted shackles on them.

Toy frames are wider than Cj frames, so the pads are about 1.5" wider apart, I believe. But they are very close to Sami frames, so perhaps close to trackers.


Or, the Sami axles as noted, find someone who's going bigger and pick up a front end. 31s, even 33s could survive if its wheeled carefully. Get upgraded birfields or rings or whatevers available for Zuks these days.

Stock Toy birfields would probably hold up to decent tires in a tracker. (modifield toy birfs are strong as dana 60s)



What kind of tracker, how high of a lift, and what size tires are your plans?
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well you can get birfield rings for stock samurai axles, but then you break the shaft and not the joint, so i'd just leave the birfs stock and keep spares.

You can modify them though and put different side gears in, and run larger shafts, and that can hold up to 33's supposedly. But as cool as Suzuki's are, i just don't see the point in putting lots of money into the axles, when 44's and toys are around.
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well you can get birfield rings for stock samurai axles, but then you break the shaft and not the joint, so i'd just leave the birfs stock and keep spares.

You can modify them though and put different side gears in, and run larger shafts, and that can hold up to 33's supposedly. But as cool as Suzuki's are, i just don't see the point in putting lots of money into the axles, when 44's and toys are around.
Its too bad Bobby Long doesn't make zuki axles/birfs. That would be a nice upgrade.
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