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Old February 22nd, 2007, 12:27 PM   #1
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Default Hillary's the B**** we thought she was

Long read, but worth it.........

Don't know if this is true. Could find no clear answer on Snopes.

Air Force One Passengers


For those who don't know... Capt. Denny Keast flies for UAL and flew
many SAM's (Special Air Mission's) for the White House.

Subject: Secret Service:

I flew 4 Presidential support missions in the C-141 out of Dover AFB, DE
Two for President Johnson and two for President Nixon.
Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two occasions I flew for him,
if the Secret Service and their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn't
we would have had to stay on the airplane for hours while he (Johnson)
off somewhere. Nixon never required that and the four (4) stops we made
with him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to me and my crew.

We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secret service
presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson
the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.

Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and
LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and
Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match
Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current president
Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them
When the president flies, there are several planes that also go, one
carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a
@$g! t; press aircraft.
Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force
and security people could have a day with their families.


Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail.
She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with
them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean
spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless,
never in her mother's presence.

Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The
consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.

Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were
charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job,
as professionals should, but they all loathed her and wanted to be on a
different detail.

Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often
Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use
her husband. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and
in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the
Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors
Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could
what she was saying.

Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he
tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was
crystal clear that the Clinton 's neither liked nor respected each other
and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was
genuinely a "marriage of convenience."

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the
Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have
charisma, and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his
detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards
His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false,
and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance
his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not
particularly like him and nobody trusted him.


Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were more
friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former
President Clinton.
They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very
close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant.
She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she had her
and no longer liked her or associated with her except for events that
were politically obligatory.

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented
Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all
His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the
This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often
said as much, even in the presence of their security detail.

Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined,
neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good
qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their
security details.

Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security
detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold
them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had
no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed
and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring
and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and
be like them?"

Word of this insult by the former Vice-President quickly spread and he
became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed
Al Gore would not be elected President, and they really did have private
celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was
not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate
Al Gore's defeat.


Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's
detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest
and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving.
Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her
security detail,
Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers. She doesn't just
shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members
her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is
false about her. This is her genuine nature. Her security detail
her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush
Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch
of the North."

Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a
man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always
trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford,
Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q
for his security detail and he helps serve their meals. He sits with
eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first
name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection. He
asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They
believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service.
They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush.

Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an
opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and
consistent. It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always
treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.

Please pass this on. It is important for Americans to have a true
inside understanding of their President
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Not a surprise in that read.
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Hillary a bitch????? imagine that.....who'd a thunk it

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Originally Posted by Rattler View Post
Not a surprise in that read.
Thats what I was thinking. It's almost to close to my perception of those people to be believable.
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Originally Posted by fr3db3ar View Post
Hillary a bitch?????
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I can believe what they say about the "W" and Laura Bush, towards their security details. A guy I work with just got out of the Marines where he was posted at Camp David, he said LAura bush really made an effort to get to know all the people working there from the housekeepers to the guards on post.
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Hmmmmmm. I'm a one of the few typically democratic folks on here but when I read that I think.

Are you serious, come on this is obviously such a contrived set of "facts" it's ridiculous. Did no one else notice that it was completely split, the were all nice and lovely and "gems" to work for while the were all asses and bitches.

Because I was curious. I did a little lunch time research. The Air Force Memorial lists a Lt. Col. Dennis Keast. I suppose this could have been written when he was just a Capt. but then the time lines would need to be looked into because the bushes have only been in office for 7 years.

I too couldn't find this info on snopes. I didn't search very long though. I did find a false report about the clintons forcing their SS agents to pay rent though.

That's all the time I have to do to research right now.....
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