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Old January 18th, 2006, 11:27 PM   #1
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I got this crazy ambition to get my waggy running and wheel it.. but i dont know what motor is in it... ive been told Buick 350 ive been told AMC 360..
I doesnt say anywhere on it, but i has a dist. in FRONT angled towards drivers side... its has a 2 barrel rochester carb.. thats the only thing i can think of that set it apart from others, ANyone know what engines came in these ?? I could prob get the vin this weekend if its still on there.. I will also snap good pictures then..



I doubt these pics will help, but tell what angles will help and i will try to take them this weekend...

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Old January 19th, 2006, 01:14 AM   #2
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looks like a 350 to be but im a dumb ass so i have no idea. but all of my 350s have looked like that
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Old January 19th, 2006, 01:15 AM   #3
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does the manifold have the firing order as part of the caster in the front. do you know the firing order?? i think you could tell bt looking at the exhaust ports also.
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That's the Dauntless II Buick 350. See below minus the vehicle.

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Old January 19th, 2006, 02:15 AM   #5
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That's the Dauntless II Buick 350. See below minus the vehicle.

yep that looks like mine ! Thanks PP
Know of anyone who has one in running descent running condition that i could buy/ cheap ?
Im goin to post in the wanted adds too..
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Old January 19th, 2006, 04:17 PM   #6
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Wow, does that look similar to a AMC 360!
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Yeah, except for where it says Dauntless on the air cleaner.




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Old January 20th, 2006, 03:50 PM   #8
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Got any idea what other motors will bolt up in place of that ?? without special adapters
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How about a Buick 455?
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Got any idea what other motors will bolt up in place of that ?? without special adapters
Not positive but probably one of these...

Station Wagons/Panels and Wagoneers, Cherokees
Engine Manufacturer Year
230 OHC, I-6 Kaiser 1962-65 (early)
232 OHV, I-6 AMC 1965 (late)-71 (early)
258 OHV, I-6 AMC 1971 (late)-87
304 V8 AMC 1971-72
327 V8 Kaiser 1965-68
350 V8* Buick 1969-71
360 V8 AMC 1971-92
401 V8 AMC 1974-78

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Thanks for the info i know i have a dauntless II buick 350 with a GM Th400 Trans and a Dana 20 Transfer case
Will any B.O.P. (buick , olds, pontiac) bellhousing engine bolt up in place of that ?
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Thanks for the info i know i have a dauntless II buick 350 with a GM Th400 Trans and a Dana 20 Transfer case
Will any B.O.P. (buick , olds, pontiac) bellhousing engine bolt up in place of that ?

I believe Buick, Olds, and Pontiac bell mounts are the same. Chevy engines are different. I personally like the Olds the best out of all others.
Sweet Olds website (Good info on cyl. head porting)...

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The BOPC motors will fit the bell, but the crank input spline counts may not be the same. The motor mounts will also be different.

Either fix your motor, or do the REALLY easy thing and buy the exact same one that happens to be available RIGHT NOW. Then you'll have spare parts galore with two complete motors. You will spendmore trying to drop in a different engine than buying the same one that will drop in.
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The BOPC motors will fit the bell, but the crank input spline counts may not be the same. The motor mounts will also be different.

Either fix your motor, or do the REALLY easy thing and buy the exact same one that happens to be available RIGHT NOW. Then you'll have spare parts galore with two complete motors. You will spendmore trying to drop in a different engine than buying the same one that will drop in.
If i had the money i would buy YER MOMS motor in a sec. but i dont. i found agasket kit for 70 bux from MR. Gasket, so i might tear the engine down and see what it needs. i can do machinin work for free at school (deck the block and heads get some decen compresion), and i can get engine parts rather cheap through dad's friends... We'll see
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If i had the money i would buy YER MOMS motor in a sec. but i dont. i found agasket kit for 70 bux from MR. Gasket, so i might tear the engine down and see what it needs. i can do machinin work for free at school (deck the block and heads get some decen compresion), and i can get engine parts rather cheap through dad's friends... We'll see
Not that I don't want to get rid of my engine but, I think a rebuild sounds like a good idea since you have access to the equipment. Although it might cost you even more cash if you need to replace cranks, rods, etc.
Hows about $400 for engine, trans., & t-case ? I know you only want the engine but I can't use the other stuff, and maybe you can sell it and re-coup some of the $400. Either way, the engines got a place to stay for a while, so it's not going anywhere (unless I go through with the project it was originally intended for).
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Sorry to resurect an old post, but does anyone know if the Dauntless motor is different than a standard Buick small block ?? im lookin at engine rebuilding kits..
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I'm pretty sure the Dauntless was a V6, somewhere around 3.5L?.. ish?
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I'm pretty sure the Dauntless was a V6, somewhere around 3.5L?.. ish?
nope this has been confirmed Dauntless II buick 350.. there was a Dauntless V-6 also.. im prob gona tear the motor apart next time i go home wetheri can find a kit or not.. but if its just rings and bearings i fgiure i should be able to get it running again without tooooo much $$ invested..
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Bah.. Shows what I know lol

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i fgiure i should be able to get it running again without tooooo much $$ invested..
I remember saying that before... good luck with the build.
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Sorry to resurect an old post, but does anyone know if the Dauntless motor is different than a standard Buick small block ?? im lookin at engine rebuilding kits..

Look it up as a 1969.


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It was a 225. :miff:
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