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Old February 15th, 2007, 08:30 PM   #1
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i think my mini spool been breaking all my axleshafts , so i m wondeirng i wanted to remove it the mini spool do i have to take out the carrier in order to remove it or i can still have it in the axle and remove it?? i know sound dumb but never worked with any spools or lockers
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Old February 15th, 2007, 10:33 PM   #2
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You need to elaborate a little bit.

What axle and what gears do you have?

You might have to, might not, depends on if you can slide the cross shaft passed the ring gear.
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Old February 15th, 2007, 10:37 PM   #3
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FSJ D44/C20, 4.10's. Boogerboy's old XJ.
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Old February 16th, 2007, 12:03 PM   #4
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FSJ D44/C20, 4.10's. Boogerboy's old XJ.
thats correect there... dana 44 up front with 4.10
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If its in the dana 44, I beleive you'll need to pull th ecarrier to slide the cross pin past the ring gear. I know you do on dana 44s with 3.73 gears, and the ring is closer towards center on a 4.11..
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how easy it is? do i just pull the carrier out and just remove the mini spool , and then just put back the carrier without aligning all over again? like i said i never touched anything inside the axles or acrrier so might guides will help alot thanks
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Old February 16th, 2007, 03:50 PM   #7
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Are you running the mini on the street?? I have had problems with a mini breaking the carrier in a 9 in. Spools are rough on everything in there.
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not the street , it s a rig for me not a DD and it s up front and my rear is locked... i ve broke too many axle shafts ever since i owned it.. and it s a bicth to find extra axleshafts
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not the street , it s a rig for me not a DD and it s up front and my rear is locked... i ve broke too many axle shafts ever since i owned it.. and it s a bicth to find extra axleshafts
Maybe the axle housing is bent or something else isn't right.
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Maybe the axle housing is bent or something else isn't right.
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I have seen 44's hold up to 37's that rock crawl that are locked... Something else must be wrong if a 44 isnt holding up to 33's downstate...
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I have seen 44's hold up to 37's that rock crawl that are locked... Something else must be wrong if a 44 isnt holding up to 33's downstate...
Locked and spooled are still two different animals in the front.


As for your question:

You need to pull the axle shafts out, mark and remove the bearing caps. Then usually you need a couple big prybars to pry the carrier out of the housing. Then you will mark, then remove the ring gear. Then you remove the roll pin, cross shaft, and the mini spool will come loose.

Then add back in spiders or a new locker, and put it all back together. Sometimes the ring gear needs to be heated to be installed, but it'll probably be OK. You should have a brass hammer for this kinda work, and some good pin punches to mark the caps and ring gear, as well as to drive out the roll pin.

Its not hard, just go by the service manual and take your time, first time its a couple hours.
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Locked and spooled are still two different animals in the front.
But one would think that 37 inch boggers would have more of an effect than balder 33 inch dunlops (if he still has the same tires) locked or spooled.

Thats just what I think, I am sure you can say something that dis-proves my point, but its what I think
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It's a front D44 with a spool.

Spooled fronts are a lot harder on the axleshafts, since the front ebd sees a much bigger difference between wheel speeds when turning. Not to mention the fact that a front D44 axle assembly is much weaker that a rear one.
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It's a front D44 with a spool.

Spooled fronts are a lot harder on the axleshafts, since the front ebd sees a much bigger difference between wheel speeds when turning. Not to mention the fact that a front D44 axle assembly is much weaker that a rear one.
I am talking about a FRONT Dana 44
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Then you don't know what you are talking about.

An auto locker will allow the outside wheel to rotate faster than the inside wheel in a turn. The spool makes them turn the exact same speed all the time, ruining u-joints and breaking ears off shafts lickety-split.

You can't compare apples and oranges, and then claim the apple is an orange just because the apple came from a crate of bannanas.

The point of this forum is to give tech, actual TECH. Not to argue because "Thats just what I think"- you need some actual TECH (or experience) to back up your point.


I'm working with both here, and I'm fairly sure Jesus is using some of each, as well.
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I am trying to work with experience, and this is the third time you have explained a locker to me for no reason. I will stay out now.
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One question, where are you busting shafts? At the neck down on the inner shaft, or are you bustin the ears of the shaft. If you are busting ears I think I might know your problem. You are spitting caps out then you toast the ears of the shaft.

I had this problem with my front end. I run a TTB 35 welded. Busted shafts all the time. Was spittin caps all the time. The cap will spin in the ear and the crappy C snap ring will come off. Then the cap will walk its way out. So I ground the ears for full snap rings and started to bust u joints, crappy cheap joints. Now I run spicer 760-X joints with full rings. No problems now.
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