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Old February 12th, 2007, 12:54 PM   #1
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here's part of the letter i just got from pete lumborg in regards to the mud at silver lake

"Bill - Yes, that area with the ponds and vegetation will continue to be
closed off. That is considered a "wet land" and those types of areas
are closed to vehicle traffic.

About three or four years ago we noticed that because of the lower
water table and the natural filling process, that the blowing sands
cause in those vegetated areas, the pond(s) were drying up. In short,
opening the area up again for a couple years made for a "poor man's
dredge'... the big trucks had some added fun for awhile and the birds
got back some of their habitat. Sort of a short term win-win
situation."

i know what i think about this,how about you guys?
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Old February 12th, 2007, 01:50 PM   #2
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I can tell you that Pete is a "stand up" guy who is in favor of and appreciates the world of off road. When the mud pits were opened up, they told us at that time that it would be temporary.

If there is a single person in the DNR who is on our side, it is Pete. He has been very helpful in the past with information.
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Old February 12th, 2007, 02:29 PM   #3
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I can see where you guys are coming from with the whole saving the wetlands, it kinda sucks tho bc I think the mud was the funnest part of silver lake...silver has water, sand dunes for climbin, mud for boggin, beach for chillaxin, I just liked it better when the mud was open bc of the all around wheelin effect ya know?
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Old February 14th, 2007, 02:24 PM   #4
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i liked the mud but i see where u r comeing from
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Old February 14th, 2007, 03:15 PM   #5
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o.k.,i don't want you guys to think i agree with this explanation.here is a copy of my post from the silver lake dune forum.

i don't want to dis pete he seems to be a good guy,but i guess we were only allowed to tear the "wetlands "up to keep them from dissappearing naturally.
the summer before they closed the mud off in the 1st place one of the rangers told me we were chasing the ducks off and she was mad because she liked to shoot them("hunt" was the word she used)in the fall, after the dunes closed.i never forgot that, and wonder if we lost a big section of the o.r.v. area for just that reason.
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here's part of the letter i just got from pete lumborg in regards to the mud at silver lake

"Bill - Yes, that area with the ponds and vegetation will continue to be
closed off. That is considered a "wet land" and those types of areas
are closed to vehicle traffic.


About three or four years ago we noticed that because of the lower
water table and the natural filling process, that the blowing sands
cause in those vegetated areas, the pond(s) were drying up. In short,
opening the area up again for a couple years made for a "poor man's
dredge'... the big trucks had some added fun for awhile and the birds
got back some of their habitat. Sort of a short term win-win
situation."

i know what i think about this,how about you guys?
My guess is this, the key word is they are "condidered" not they "are". I believe this allows the DNR to handle it how they wish.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 03:32 PM   #7
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My guess is this, the key word is they are "condidered" not they "are". I believe this allows the DNR to handle it how they wish.

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I watched something simular a couple years back oner the west coast dunes. the treehuggers wanted to shut down vast areas of beach to protect the Snowy Plover. come to find out the Plover only hung around where the trucks & buggies were, can you guess why?

No preditors! the birds figured out the trucks were the least of their problems. they used people as protection and saved themselves. now the treehuggers wanted to remove the only thing keeping the Plovers there...stupid treehuggers.
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I watched something simular a couple years back oner the west coast dunes. the treehuggers wanted to shut down vast areas of beach to protect the Snowy Plover. come to find out the Plover only hung around where the trucks & buggies were, can you guess why?

No preditors! the birds figured out the trucks were the least of their problems. they used people as protection and saved themselves. now the treehuggers wanted to remove the only thing keeping the Plovers there...stupid treehuggers.
I dont like tree huggers


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