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Old February 9th, 2007, 11:08 PM   #1
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I would like to know how bad turning is going to be with a lockrite? I dont want to spend alot of money on axles I'm not going to keep for good. but i want lockers now.are they worth the money? this is a dana 30 in a xj

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Old February 10th, 2007, 12:05 AM   #2
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I put a Detroit in my 30. It takes a little getting use to. Turning at full lock (steering wheel left or right) is real rough on the u joints. The weak link will probably be the carrier. That's why I went with a Detroit it has a real solid case that should help things moving around in there to much. I know its still a turd though. Its going to have to do until I can go full width.
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It will be fine as long as you don't have a 242. If you do, you won't like driving it on the street in fulltime.

As far as the D30 being a "turd", I still haven't hurt a shaft or u-joint in 5 years of running one on 35" Boggers and Q78 Swampers. (I did bend a housing, but 3 turn barrelrolls are kinda tough on axlehousings) :tonka:
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You definatly will not like using 4x4 on the street in the winter when you might need it. When you turn it will want to keep you going straight. I Image you could "get use to it", But it definatly is safer driving in 2wd in the snow/ice on the street then in 4x4 with a front locker. Thats My opinion on it.
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Old February 10th, 2007, 02:58 PM   #5
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I dont drive in 4 wheel on the street alot . alot of the time I trail ride in2wd till I need 4wd. so it shouldn't be too much of problem.thanks guys
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ive never had any problems with mine. on or off road.
well except for snow and ice
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I run a detroit in the front of my CJ (Dana 44) and I really like it. No switchs, lines or anything. A lock-rite is the same way. They are durable, inexpensive, and work well from what I have witnessed. They tend to have a distinctive clicking sound when turning, but it is something you will get used to. Turning will be fine. When I need to make really tight turns in my CJ, I just pop it out of 4WD, and then when I am done, throw in back in 4. Works fine
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this comin for a ford truck ttb front end guy, but i wouldnt do it. i had one for a while, but got sick of changeing axle shafts, and u joints. it may work better in a solid axle like your jeeps, but i'd stick to locked rear, and open front. most of the time, even in my big turd, my front hooks posi anyways, even tho its open, in the mud anyways. i dont do any sort of crawling. im strickly a mud guy.

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So you are giving advice, even though you don't own a Jeep, know anything about them, or wheel anything but mud.

Just checking....
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So you are giving advice, even though you don't own a Jeep, know anything about them, or wheel anything but mud.

Just checking....
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Old February 21st, 2007, 03:16 AM   #11
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I have a Lock-rite in my D30. It is very tolerable to me. However, it does handle a bit differently on road. The biggest complaint is when one tire hits an ice patch during braking. My TJ does not have ABS, so that wheel tends to lock and drag the other with it. Besides that, I am going on 7 years with it installed and have never broken anything or had any problems with it.
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I did it. I'll NEVER do it again. I bought a lock-right, cheap, threw it up front. Talk about an understeering beeatch. In deep snow or slick mud, the jeep went STRAIGHT, even with the wheel FULLY turned. I don't agree with the idea of popping it out of 4 to steer! Not an option on a snowy hill side with trees all around. From now on: Any locker in the rear is fine. Leave the front alone, or for serious wheeling get either a Truetrak or a selectable locker.
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I have a Lock-rite in my D30. It is very tolerable to me. However, it does handle a bit differently on road. The biggest complaint is when one tire hits an ice patch during braking. My TJ does not have ABS, so that wheel tends to lock and drag the other with it. Besides that, I am going on 7 years with it installed and have never broken anything or had any problems with it.
Gotta love that destructive sound when that happens!

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I'm locked front and rear with Detroit E-Z Lockers.


Turning in 4wd on ice and snow takes throttle manipulation.

Like anything else. Once you learn how to drive it, and how it will handle, it's predictable enough to deal with. I've been just fine for the past 25,000+ miles.
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I did it. I'll NEVER do it again. I bought a lock-right, cheap, threw it up front. Talk about an understeering beeatch. In deep snow or slick mud, the jeep went STRAIGHT, even with the wheel FULLY turned. I don't agree with the idea of popping it out of 4 to steer! Not an option on a snowy hill side with trees all around. From now on: Any locker in the rear is fine. Leave the front alone, or for serious wheeling get either a Truetrak or a selectable locker.
It takes skill lol
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I did it. I'll NEVER do it again. I bought a lock-right, cheap, threw it up front. Talk about an understeering beeatch. In deep snow or slick mud, the jeep went STRAIGHT, even with the wheel FULLY turned. I don't agree with the idea of popping it out of 4 to steer! Not an option on a snowy hill side with trees all around. From now on: Any locker in the rear is fine. Leave the front alone, or for serious wheeling get either a Truetrak or a selectable locker.

Did you only run a locker in the front? I have run them F&R, and have never needed to shift to 2wd to turn.

Ever.
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i put a lock-rite in my wrangler and it is awesome with the exception of braking, it works like an open diff. except when one side spins it transfers power to the wheel with traction. based on the replies above the only one that i agree with is jeeptjpaul. it sounds like every one else is speeking of lockers where as a lock-rite is not truely a locker.
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it sounds like every one else is speeking of lockers where as a lock-rite is not truely a locker.

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A Lock-Right IS a Locker
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Old February 24th, 2007, 03:33 PM   #18
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I had a lockright in my D30 and I drove that down the highway, for long distances to wheeling trips, and wheeled it at the Badlands, and never had a problem.
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[QUOTE=Cooter;441358]Did you only run a locker in the front? I have run them F&R, and have never needed to shift to 2wd to turn.

Ever.[/QUOTE]

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Old February 25th, 2007, 08:42 AM   #20
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Why not just take it out in the winter and back in around spring?
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