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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:42 AM   #461
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this build is gay....hang your thong up and wheel it..
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this build is gay....hang your thong up and wheel it..
screw you ass bag Hard to wheel a Jeep when you cant bolt the tub back down. I dont wanna halfass this rebuild, do it right once and never worry bout it again.

Im not working with a few dents and scratches here, ive got rot right near the b-piller cage floor mount and major body mount work needs to be done. Thats only the damage ive found so far, no doubt more is gonna be found.
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Cut it out, weld in a patch panel and go wheeling this year.

It's a jeep, not a classic car.
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Skooter, if you're just going to drive around on the street and wear out your tires, let me have your stickies and I'll replace them with something more streetable.
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Cut it out, weld in a patch panel and go wheeling this year.

It's a jeep, not a classic car.
ya and then in a few years i have to do everything again. I have to explore and see what needs to be repaired first and go from there.
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Skooter, if you're just going to drive around on the street and wear out your tires, let me have your stickies and I'll replace them with something more streetable.
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staring with a whole jeep and ending up with a frame and a pile of parts.......
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im thinking that could be the life of andy's jeep lol
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ya and then in a few years i have to do everything again. I have to explore and see what needs to be repaired first and go from there.

I'm not sure if you've ever wheeled more than a couple years on some challenging terrain but after 2 years things need to be freshened up no matter what. There is only so long you can wheel the same shit before you have to tear it down and clean it up, if you dont it'll get torn up so badly that you just about have to start over after about 5 years.


Ask anyone that has wheeled hard terrain for any period of time, it takes it's toll and there is no way around maintenance. Sometimes it's axles, tires or body panels, but it's always something.

But....... If this is going to be a street wheeler then by all means, make it nice and pretty so you're afraid to take it wheeling.
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I'm not sure if you've ever wheeled more than a couple years on some challenging terrain but after 2 years things need to be freshened up no matter what. There is only so long you can wheel the same shit before you have to tear it down and clean it up, if you dont it'll get torn up so badly that you just about have to start over after about 5 years.


Ask anyone that has wheeled hard terrain for any period of time, it takes it's toll and there is no way around maintenance. Sometimes it's axles, tires or body panels, but it's always something.

But....... If this is going to be a street wheeler then by all means, make it nice and pretty so you're afraid to take it wheeling.
hmmmmmmmmm in the last 5 or so years;
2 engine swaps
2 axle swaps
3 winch swaps
2 trans rebuilds
3 or so t-cases
gone through both axles after 2 years
current trans needs rebuilt

on and on and on and on......... but you know what? My Rhino Lined tub is the exact same as 8 years ago.
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I'm not sure if you've ever wheeled more than a couple years on some challenging terrain but after 2 years things need to be freshened up no matter what. There is only so long you can wheel the same shit before you have to tear it down and clean it up, if you dont it'll get torn up so badly that you just about have to start over after about 5 years.


Ask anyone that has wheeled hard terrain for any period of time, it takes it's toll and there is no way around maintenance. Sometimes it's axles, tires or body panels, but it's always something.

But....... If this is going to be a street wheeler then by all means, make it nice and pretty so you're afraid to take it wheeling.
Bryce Im not sure if you or anyone else is getting the point. The whole reason for my rebuild was to freshen everything up, so I could have a reliable & safe wheeling rig. Ive owned this Jeep for 6 years, yes mostly daily driven with mild offroading but with 11 years on this Jeep the elements have taken their toll.

This Jeep isnt a competition rig, yes Im going to take it offroad and if it gets beat up on the trail whoopty f'n do, damage/breakage will happen and thats fine however I dont wheel with the whole intention of ripping off every body panel on the trail. Im pretty sure your Dad, Tab, WhiteRhino, Ironman(guys you personally know) wheel the same way. I know this cause Ive seen them all wheel.

Ya I want a nice looking Jeep. Ive spent alot on quality, high end parts. Shouldnt I have pride in what I send my money on? I dont think there is anything that you'd halfass on your own buggy is there? The reason ill be getting a new tub is because mine is unsafe as it currently sits. Every body mount was rotten through the panel. If I had to pull from the cage the tub would have came off. The floor near the drivers cage floor plate is soft, if I landed on it in a roll id bet that it would go through the floor. I easily could repair this tub but after getting it blasted, doing rust repair, buying materials and my own labor id easily be going north of spending $500. I can get a new tub for that, then just bolt on the armor and repaint it and line the interior and underneith.

Again a job isnt worth doing if your not gonna do it right, I halfassed my Jeep plenty in the past and thats probably what got it into the condition its in now. This is MY Jeep, I plan to never to sell it or get rid of it so I'd like it to last.
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Bryce Im not sure if you or anyone else is getting the point. The whole reason for my rebuild was to freshen everything up, so I could have a reliable & safe wheeling rig. Ive owned this Jeep for 6 years, yes mostly daily driven with mild offroading but with 11 years on this Jeep the elements have taken their toll.

This Jeep isnt a competition rig, yes Im going to take it offroad and if it gets beat up on the trail whoopty f'n do, damage/breakage will happen and thats fine however I dont wheel with the whole intention of ripping off every body panel on the trail. Im pretty sure your Dad, Tab, WhiteRhino, Ironman(guys you personally know) wheel the same way. I know this cause Ive seen them all wheel.

Ya I want a nice looking Jeep. Ive spent alot on quality, high end parts. Shouldnt I have pride in what I send my money on? I dont think there is anything that you'd halfass on your own buggy is there? The reason ill be getting a new tub is because mine is unsafe as it currently sits. Every body mount was rotten through the panel. If I had to pull from the cage the tub would have came off. The floor near the drivers cage floor plate is soft, if I landed on it in a roll id bet that it would go through the floor. I easily could repair this tub but after getting it blasted, doing rust repair, buying materials and my own labor id easily be going north of spending $500. I can get a new tub for that, then just bolt on the armor and repaint it and line the interior and underneith.

Again a job isnt worth doing if your not gonna do it right, I halfassed my Jeep plenty in the past and thats probably what got it into the condition its in now. This is MY Jeep, I plan to never to sell it or get rid of it so I'd like it to last.

OK, I'll give you a on this one. BTW, I'll give you $1,000 for the stickies tonight.
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It's not a matter of doing it right or not, the issue is that when it comes down to it, you'll have a vehicle that is too nice to try everything you want. My dads truck is the same way, it's so nice that he doesnt do things that are well within the abilities of the vehicle because he doesnt want to screw it up if something were to happen.

Cages should always be tied into the frame, no other option for something that will be driven offroad. The tub should be able to fall off the mounts and you and the rest of the vehicle are still attached to the frame/cage.

I'm not saying fix up what you have and run it forever, what I am saying is that you should finish it and make it as nice as it can be without getting carried away. Then once you know the vehicle and know what it's capable of and have all the bugs worked out you can tear it down in a year or two and replace the tub and freshen it up. You'll be out wheeling sooner and you'll have already gotten some dents in the old tub and not in a much nicer one that you just spent $500 on, in the end, it costs the same amount.

The body on my tracker was so nice that I was afraid to do everything I wanted with it. Once I started pushing it a little bit it got some body damage. After it got torn up I was always backing down from stuff so I didnt tear it up even more, it took the fun out of wheeling. That's really why I built a buggy instead of sticking with a full body vehicle.
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Bryce Im not sure if you or anyone else is getting the point. The whole reason for my rebuild was to freshen everything up, so I could have a reliable & safe wheeling rig. Ive owned this Jeep for 6 years, yes mostly daily driven with mild offroading but with 11 years on this Jeep the elements have taken their toll.

This Jeep isnt a competition rig, yes Im going to take it offroad and if it gets beat up on the trail whoopty f'n do, damage/breakage will happen and thats fine however I dont wheel with the whole intention of ripping off every body panel on the trail. Im pretty sure your Dad, Tab, WhiteRhino, Ironman(guys you personally know) wheel the same way. I know this cause Ive seen them all wheel.

Ya I want a nice looking Jeep. Ive spent alot on quality, high end parts. Shouldnt I have pride in what I send my money on? I dont think there is anything that you'd halfass on your own buggy is there? The reason ill be getting a new tub is because mine is unsafe as it currently sits. Every body mount was rotten through the panel. If I had to pull from the cage the tub would have came off. The floor near the drivers cage floor plate is soft, if I landed on it in a roll id bet that it would go through the floor. I easily could repair this tub but after getting it blasted, doing rust repair, buying materials and my own labor id easily be going north of spending $500. I can get a new tub for that, then just bolt on the armor and repaint it and line the interior and underneith.

Again a job isnt worth doing if your not gonna do it right, I halfassed my Jeep plenty in the past and thats probably what got it into the condition its in now. This is MY Jeep, I plan to never to sell it or get rid of it so I'd like it to last.

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OK, I'll give you a on this one. BTW, I'll give you $1,000 for the stickies tonight.
Ok but when are you gonna give me the 2nd $1000

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It's not a matter of doing it right or not, the issue is that when it comes down to it, you'll have a vehicle that is too nice to try everything you want. My dads truck is the same way, it's so nice that he doesnt do things that are well within the abilities of the vehicle because he doesnt want to screw it up if something were to happen.

Cages should always be tied into the frame, no other option for something that will be driven offroad. The tub should be able to fall off the mounts and you and the rest of the vehicle are still attached to the frame/cage.

I'm not saying fix up what you have and run it forever, what I am saying is that you should finish it and make it as nice as it can be without getting carried away. Then once you know the vehicle and know what it's capable of and have all the bugs worked out you can tear it down in a year or two and replace the tub and freshen it up. You'll be out wheeling sooner and you'll have already gotten some dents in the old tub and not in a much nicer one that you just spent $500 on, in the end, it costs the same amount.

The body on my tracker was so nice that I was afraid to do everything I wanted with it. Once I started pushing it a little bit it got some body damage. After it got torn up I was always backing down from stuff so I didnt tear it up even more, it took the fun out of wheeling. That's really why I built a buggy instead of sticking with a full body vehicle.
You raise valid points and I understand where your comming from however Ill be farther ahead with a new tub as a starting point then with my current one. If I get to scared to wheel this Jeep then I guess Ill just have to build another one Well that is once Im done with college.
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In a year. (comes with the wheels right?)
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