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Old January 27th, 2007, 12:21 PM   #21
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spelling and grammer have nothing to do with intelligence.
But one will have a fukc of time trying to convince people if their grammAr blows
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Old January 27th, 2007, 01:52 PM   #22
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spelling and grammer have nothing to do with intelligence.
There is a true lefty statement. Chiefy will be proud of you.
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Bush is a stooge! All he is supposed to do is what he is told because he's NOT A BRIGHT MA-AN.......if you actually think HE makes the decisions, you are not too bright yourself. His cabinet has done decent things for the country in overall economy,michigan excluded which has nothing to do with the idiot that Bush is. The way MOST things have been handled during his REIN have been rediculously mis-handled. MY personal opinion is that he has more reasons to be impeached than Clinton getting a BJ in the oval office. If he were any other country's leader, he would have been tried for being a war criminal.
Bizzush is a stooge! all he is supposed ta do is wizzle he is told coz hes not a bright ma-an.......if you actually T-H-to-tha-izzink he makes tha decisions, you aint too bright yoself. his cabinet has done decent clockin' fo` tha country in overall economy,mizzles excluded which has nuttin' ta do wit tha idiot T-H-to-tha-izzat bush is. tha way most th'n have been handled messin' his rein hizzle been rediculously mis-handled . Snoop heffner mixed with a little bit of doggy flint. mah personal opinion is thizzat he has mizzy reasons ta be impeached than clinton doggy stylin' a bj in tha oval office in tha mutha fuckin club. if he were any otha countrys leada, he would hizzy been tried fo` being a war criminal . Dogg House Records in the motha fuckin house.


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Other than Iraq, cite three examples of things that have been mishandled that were his doing.
1) Failure to capture Bin Laden due to focus of forces to Iraq.
2) No Child Left Behind Act (Ask any teacher on this if you arent sure)
3) Budget deficit that we and our children will have to bear.
4) Failure to have sufficient foriegn policy clout to stop the ridiculous trade imbalance with China due to their currency value. If he hadnt gone into Iraq all by himself, we would have more global clout and respect.

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Bizzush is a stooge! all he is supposed ta do is wizzle he is told coz hes not a bright ma-an.......if you actually T-H-to-tha-izzink he makes tha decisions, you aint too bright yoself. his cabinet has done decent clockin' fo` tha country in overall economy,mizzles excluded which has nuttin' ta do wit tha idiot T-H-to-tha-izzat bush is. tha way most th'n have been handled messin' his rein hizzle been rediculously mis-handled . Snoop heffner mixed with a little bit of doggy flint. mah personal opinion is thizzat he has mizzy reasons ta be impeached than clinton doggy stylin' a bj in tha oval office in tha mutha fuckin club. if he were any otha countrys leada, he would hizzy been tried fo` being a war criminal . Dogg House Records in the motha fuckin house.


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1) Failure to capture Bin Laden due to focus of forces to Iraq.
2) No Child Left Behind Act (Ask any teacher on this if you arent sure)
3) Budget deficit that we and our children will have to bear.
4) Failure to have sufficient foriegn policy clout to stop the ridiculous trade imbalance with China due to their currency value. If he hadnt gone into Iraq all by himself, we would have more global clout and respect.
Dude, the GDP is doing fine so our budget deficit doesn't matter.

I love when Jammisann brings up that argment . . . to bad he had to be killd
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Old January 27th, 2007, 06:19 PM   #27
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The government response to Katrina was also the fastest response by any administration in the country's history. It took seven days for the first trucks to get down there for Hurricane Andrew.

You get an A for effort but a D in everything else.
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Jason van Steenwyk is a Florida Army National Guardsman who has been mobilized six times for hurricane relief. He notes that:

"The federal government pretty much met its standard time lines, but the volume of support provided during the 72-96 hour was unprecedented. The federal response here was faster than Hugo, faster than Andrew, faster than Iniki, faster than Francine and Jeanne."

For instance, it took five days for National Guard troops to arrive in strength on the scene in Homestead, Fla. after Hurricane Andrew hit in 1992. But after Katrina, there was a significant National Guard presence in the afflicted region in three.

A little to back up your statement before someone asks!!
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1) Failure to capture Bin Laden due to focus of forces to Iraq.
This also sounds like the guy that was in office before Bush was elected.Mr Clinton had a chance to get his head several times,but did nothing because he wanted to get re-elected to office!!

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030...2359-9067r.htm
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This also sounds like the guy that was in office before Bush was elected.Mr Clinton had a chance to get his head several times,but did nothing because he wanted to get re-elected to office!!

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030...2359-9067r.htm
Yes, but that was not the question that was asked. If you go back farther, a certain US president actually equipped and trained Bin Laden to fight the Russians as they were invading Afghanistan. Food for thought.
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1) Failure to capture Bin Laden due to focus of forces to Iraq.
2) No Child Left Behind Act (Ask any teacher on this if you arent sure)
3) Budget deficit that we and our children will have to bear.
4) Failure to have sufficient foriegn policy clout to stop the ridiculous trade imbalance with China due to their currency value. If he hadnt gone into Iraq all by himself, we would have more global clout and respect.
Thanks for the dialouge.

(1) Bin Laden - I'd like to think that we would have captured him by now. The issue there is that he has the support of the local population, and despite the Pakistani government's official position, most of their government supports him as well. I don't think we could apply more troops or resources to the effort without really getting into it with the Pakis as well. I'll give you this one as a failure of the Bush administration - although I don't know what else could be done, regardless of who held the office.

(2) I'm not an educator, but I don't see what's wrong with the principles and concepts behind NCLB (i.e. inserting some accountability and consequences into the education system). All of the negative things I've read keep coming down to the a (pretty accurate in my assessment) belief that NCLB will diminish the power of the NEA. BTW, in a another example of the biting the hand that keeps feeding it (organized labor) Ted "Mr. Potato Head" Kennedy was instrumental in authoring and promoting this bill, which was widely supported by . Until I see some facts to the contrary, I think NCLB sounds like an excellent idea. And by facts, I don't mean whining how hard it is to change - talk to people in the telecommunications, utility, pharmaceutical, or other businesses that "benefitted" from government interference.

(3) Budget deficit = side effect of Iraq war. While definitely a very bad thing, again, I don't see where it's a Bush-specific thing (i.e. where any other administration could've conducted a war and created / beefed up homeland security (another bill that was coming due for a very long time) without deficit spending.

(4) I'll agree that the Iraq adventure appears to have cost us a lot of foreign goodwill. However, I look at it differently - because of this, we found out (1) who our friends really were, and (2) just how deep the ties ran (or didn't run) with the rest. I suspect the clout and influence we held previously was more an illusion than somehting real and tangible - it just took a little stress (i.e. Iraq) to bring the shallowness of most of our "friends" to the surface. Note: Europeans are fair-weather friends / "allies" who have a short-term memory problem (remember the Kaiser? Nazis? Marshall Plan? Soviets?).

China is a growing problem we'll have to deal with in some manner - although I don't know how. We'd better have plans for the other Asian nuclear power India as well. These two 3rd/2nd world countries are coming on fast. However, other than the swelling deficit, I don't know how Dubya has made this any worse (or better).
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Old January 28th, 2007, 06:28 PM   #32
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I would like to point out that when Katrina hit New Orleans, the bush administration took 3 days to do anything but when the tsunami hit SOME OTHER COUNTRY the bush administration was right there doing everything they could to help. I really do agree with the union issues, they served their purpose in the 60's, 70's, and even into the early 80's. But now all they do is drive companies to other countries to seek employment that can allow them to actually make a profit.

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A little commentary from some friends in Colorado:
Weather Bulletin - Denver



Up here, in the "Mile-Hi City", we just recovered from a Historic
event--- may I even say a "Weather Event" of "Biblical Proportions" ---
with a historic blizzard of up to 44" inches of snow and winds to 90 MPH
that broke trees in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds
of motorists in lethal snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated scores of
communities and cut power to 10's of thousands.



FYI:
George Bush did not come.

FEMA did nothing.

No one howled for the government.

No one blamed the government.

No one even uttered an expletive on TV.

Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton did not visit.

Our Mayor did not blame Bush or anyone else.

Our Governor did not blame Bush or anyone else, either.

CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX or NBC did not visit - or report on this category 5
snowstorm. Nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards.

No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House.

No one looted.

Nobody - I mean Nobody demanded the government do something.

Nobody expected the government to do anything, either.

No Larry King, No Bill O'Rielly, No Oprah, No Chris Mathews and No
Geraldo Rivera.

No Shaun Penn, No Barbara Striesand, No Hollywood types to be found.

Nope, we just melted the snow for water.

Sent out caravans of SUV's to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars.

The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks and didn't ask for a
penny.

Local restaurants made food and the police and fire departments
delivered it to the snowbound families.

Families took in the stranded people - total strangers.

We fired up wood stoves, broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman
lanterns.

We put on extra layers of clothes because up here it is "Work or Die".

We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of
a mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades
votes for 'sittin at home' checks.

Even though a Category "5" blizzard of this scale has never fallen this
early, we know it can happen and how to deal with it ourselves.

I hope this gets passed on.

Maybe SOME people will get the message. The world does Not owe you a
living.
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Very practical sentiments.

I saw the same message, allegedly originating from the Marquette Mining Journal.

Per Snopes, it fails...
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Old January 28th, 2007, 06:37 PM   #34
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especially when you KNOWINGLY build in a flood zone
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And I understand that the rebuilding efforts in New Orleans are resulting in substandard construction in the very same areas that flooded last time.

It worked so well last time, I guess they're thinking they might as well do it all over again.

We need to develop some common sense and stop developing densely populated urban areas in areas that are:

(1) below sea level and/or vulnerable to hurricanes
(2) in an arid desert and lacking a water source
(3) on an active fault line
(4) volcanically active

And if we continue to do this, recognize that it is not the responsibility of the rest of the country to keep bailing you out.
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Old January 28th, 2007, 09:02 PM   #36
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Maybe SOME people will get the message. The world does Not owe you a
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Great article and I couldn't agree more
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USA Today poll now has Bush as the lowest of any president of all time with only a 30% approval rating.
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USA Today poll now has Bush as the lowest of any president of all time with only a 30% approval rating.
Check your dream girl Nancy Pelosi's approval rating while you're at it. She's not much higher.
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Check your dream girl Nancy Pelosi's approval rating while you're at it. She's not much higher.
Yeah, but she's not the president and we didn't get a chance to elect her to speaker of the house directly. Regardless it's still higher.
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And "Approval Rating" means what?

I've seen few surveys (none by a TV network, newspaper or wire service) that were worth a shit.

Basically, I don't think we (as a people) have the attention span or tolerance for a two-term President any nore.
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