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Old January 26th, 2007, 11:24 PM   #1
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Default auburn lockers f*****g suck........

......................and i'm not even done installing it yet.

worst $600 i've ever spend. the product sucks, the quality sucks, the parts are wrong. i really want to just take that POS and throw it in the dumpster and put my welded carrier in the jeep.

i'm never buying auburn again, and i'm never buying a selectable locker again. it's not worth the hassle.

that is all.

(sorry i'm in a bad mood, and can't bitch at auburn until monday. meanwhile my jeep is useless and my wife and me have to share my jeep until i can get her's back together)
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Old January 26th, 2007, 11:28 PM   #2
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Is it one of the ected's?
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Old January 26th, 2007, 11:34 PM   #3
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yeah.
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Old January 26th, 2007, 11:40 PM   #4
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My buddy just put one in a dana 44. He said it went wonderfuly. He elarged the breather hole, installed a larger fitting and ran the wires up thru the breather. He loves it. Hopefully yours gets better.
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Old January 26th, 2007, 11:43 PM   #5
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can you call him up real quick and ask him if his electric collar was on the driver side of the carrier behind the ring gear??? and also ask him which one of the "keys" he used to lock the electric collar in place???

right now i have everything together, but neither one of my "keys" fit. one is to short and doesn't reach the collar, and the other one is way to long. i was kinda playing with the idea of just not even bothering with locking it in place, but i don't know. all i know is that i regret that my wife bought herself this locker. i just hope it works better than it installs.
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Yes his collar was behind the ring gear. He's runnin it in the front. I'll have to call him in the morning. What axle is this going in? I'll check back in the morning, call him and then post back.

His works flawlessly. I am very impressed with it myself.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 12:07 AM   #7
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it's a rear jeep dana44. i was hoping to install it tonight, so my wife would have her jeep back and we wouldn't have to share a ride every day, plus i have 3 other jeeps to work on before snow run on the 3rd. but now i'm so fed up with that thing that i'm just gonna let it sit for a while and keep sharing a ride. looks like she might be riding shotgun for snow run.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 01:26 AM   #8
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So whats actually wrong with the locker? I was thinking of getting one of those and am trying to figure out if theres really a problem or is you're just pissed that your wife bought something on her own that you have to install and you're in over your head...
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Old January 27th, 2007, 06:24 AM   #9
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So whats actually wrong with the locker? I was thinking of getting one of those and am trying to figure out if theres really a problem or is you're just pissed that your wife bought something on her own that you have to install and you're in over your head...

I have to agree here...that being said it sounds like they supplied poor or no instructions? I've also considered this locker............so when you get so pissed at it that you can't stand it.......I call dibs for 1/2 price :tonka:
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Old January 27th, 2007, 10:09 AM   #10
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i have a very short temper, and this is only the second item on both of my jeeps that has ever pissed me of this bad during install. LOL

the instructions would be alright, except they are for the "old" or "different" model carrier. so there are 1 or 2 small things that don't really apply to the Dana44 carrier since it just came out this month. i actually had to call auburn to make sure they didn't put it together wrong because i couldn't find any pics online that looked like mine. and they said that it was just released this month and they haven't send out new pics/info yet.

neither of the 2 "keys" that are supposed to hold the electric collar in place seem to fit on mine (could just be that mine got packaged wrong).

the little fitting that you are supposed to screw into the housing is very week, and i was handling it like an egg so i didn't crack it when tightening it. plus the damn end is so short that it only has like 2 1/2 threads. the instructions say you can also install it in the diff cover, and put a nut on the back of it, but it's not even long enough to reach through (at least this one wasn't) on my stock D44 diff cover. and for nearly $600, they could have at least included the stupid tap required to make the hole in the diff. hell my $50 steering box skid came with it's own drill bit.

the locker itself seems cleanly put together, but the housing doesn't seem to be quality controlled very well. the access holes in the housing have big "flash" (excess material from the seam of the mold). when i worked in a factory, we always had to make sure that whatever products we were making at the time, and 0 visible flash.


i think i'm just mostly pissed off that everything was such bad timing. i'm working in a freezing garage, the place my wife ordered the master install kit from send the wrong install kit (not common from the place. we'ved ordered parts there before), i had couldn't find the right size tap anywhere in town (luckily my friend ended up having one). then none of the parts stores had dana44 bearings in stock (last year i bought 4 sets, now they are all special order). and then when i finally did get everything back together at midnight, i noticed that the "keys" didn't fit.

and that was it. now i don't wanna work on it anymore. i'm just gonna take the weekend off from that jeep and get back to it later.

so i'm sure the locker itself will perform well, but this install was the absolute worst axle job i've ever done. i've done several axles for friends including several locker installs and other stuff, and i've never had this many problems.


PS: my wife just walked in and asked me if we could just close it up WITHOUT installing the locking keys and just let the collar sit there. after all the wires would stabilize it a little, and it is riding on it's own bearing. do you guys think that might be ok???
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Old January 27th, 2007, 12:14 PM   #11
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after spending that much on a locker, would you really chance it? If it rips all the wires out and damages a lot of other stuff you will kick yourself even more...
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why dont you take thekey that is way to long and cut it to the rite length?
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Old January 27th, 2007, 08:08 PM   #13
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after spending that much on a locker, would you really chance it? If it rips all the wires out and damages a lot of other stuff you will kick yourself even more...

Not to mention Auburn won't do anythign for you if you do that.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #14
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Yes his collar was behind the ring gear. He's runnin it in the front. I'll have to call him in the morning. What axle is this going in? I'll check back in the morning, call him and then post back.
any chance you were able to get a hold of your buddy???

one other thing i forgot to mention is that on the older or other axle design ECTEDS, the slots are groved in the collar so that when you install the "key", the wires are at the top and come right out of the top of the housing. on my dana44 carrier, if i place the grooves in the front so the key would engage them, the wires are at the bottom of the collar, and i have to route them up towards the top of the carrier where i drilled the hole. so i'm a little worried about the ringgear bolts catching them. but so far it seems like the stay nicely tucked on the far side of the collar and as long as there isn't to much slack they don't seem to move. so hopefully it'll be fine. after i get everything finished up, i'll turn the carrier over by hand a bunch of times to makes sure there is plenty of clearance.


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after spending that much on a locker, would you really chance it? If it rips all the wires out and damages a lot of other stuff you will kick yourself even more...
yeah i know...i was just really upset. i'm feeling much better today after doing some successfull work on 2 other jeeps. i helped a friend rebuild his front dana60 today since he snaped his pinion at the last wheeling trip, and we have an event coming up this weekend. that went VERY CLEAN and succesfull. then my wife helped me paint and install my new TNT front rockrunner bumper on my cherokee and it looks freaking sweet. so i'm in a much better mood now, and will have a more relaxed head to go back to the wrangler.

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why dont you take thekey that is way to long and cut it to the rite length?
i was thinking about that, and looked at it for a few minutes tonight, and that's the only way i can see making it work. so that on the agenda for tomorrow.
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Ok here is what he said. Now keep in mind his is in the front.He said there should be 3 grooves in the magnet. He doesn't remember exactly which clip he used but he put it on the top bolt. With the rounded edge toward the magnet. The to help ensure that the wires didn't catch on anything he put a solid heavy peice of wire with the wires and shrink wraped them. That way he could form them to where he wanted them. Hope this helps. Rich
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Ok here is what he said. Now keep in mind his is in the front.He said there should be 3 grooves in the magnet. He doesn't remember exactly which clip he used but he put it on the top bolt. With the rounded edge toward the magnet. The to help ensure that the wires didn't catch on anything he put a solid heavy peice of wire with the wires and shrink wraped them. That way he could form them to where he wanted them. Hope this helps. Rich
that's a pretty good idea about supporting the wires.

as far as the grooves, mine only has 2. at least that i noticed. i'll go and double and tripple check the key placement/positioning before i start cutting/grinding down the long key. i should be able to finish it up today.
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so i double checked the collar, and there were 2 slots in the flat side of the collar, and 1 slot on the out edge of the collar. i was able to fit the long key in the outer edge slot, and it seemed to fit ok, so i left it there for now. also turns out that the location that i drilled for the cables wasn't the best placement, and the wires were very very close to the ring gear bolts. so i did some adjusting to the wires and after sealing everything up, i put a couple zip ties around the wires right after the housing as an extra precaution. i'm probably going to take the carrier back out down the road and redrill the hole in a better location. so overall i'm not exactly happy with the install, but then again i'm somewhat of a perfectionist (or at least my wife says i am). i'm leaving it for right now since everything is working properly, but when i get a little more time and am bored again, i'll probably tear the whole rear axle apart again and redo everything. now that i got a feel for it and learned from some of the mistakes on this specific locker, i'll be able to do it better next time. i do have to say though that non-selectable lockers are so much nicer to install. lol.

ok so i got it all buttoned up and took it for a test drive. the locker seems to be working. that thing is pretty aggressive, but definitely not a "true" locker like the detroit i installed for a friend. it seems that the ECTED becomes more aggressive the more load is put on it.

well yet another installation learning experience that i can add to my growing list of "things i can waste money on with my jeep". lol
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