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Old January 6th, 2007, 08:04 PM   #1
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OK this looks like a good place to put this.
I'm sick of everyone blaiming the lack of jobs on Bush, it's not all his fault. If you look at a time line you will see we were on a long streatch of jobs and such, and way over do for a economy crash. So stop blaiming Bush.


Now as for war, people need to stop making a big deal over the dead count it's war people die. It's sad it's tragic but it happens. Get Over It....... What we are doing to make the world safe is do to the fact that no other country had the world had the BALLS to stand up and do it. We may be loosing lives and yes that sucks but, we are saving hundrads, maybe even thousands by doing this. People need to stop looking at the world through Rose colored glasses and see the world for the screwed up place it is.....
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OK this looks like a good place to put this.
I'm sick of everyone blaiming the lack of jobs on Bush, it's not all his fault. If you look at a time line you will see we were on a long streatch of jobs and such, and way over do for a economy crash. So stop blaiming Bush.
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we are saving hundrads, maybe even thousands by doing this.
So you agree with the need to break a few eggs to make a cake theory I would assume.
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Old January 6th, 2007, 08:55 PM   #3
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Hell kill the whole dam chicken if it helps....
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OK this looks like a good place to put this.
I'm sick of everyone blaiming the lack of jobs on Bush, it's not all his fault. If you look at a time line you will see we were on a long streatch of jobs and such, and way over do for a economy crash. So stop blaiming Bush.


Now as for war, people need to stop making a big deal over the dead count it's war people die. It's sad it's tragic but it happens. Get Over It....... What we are doing to make the world safe is do to the fact that no other country had the world had the BALLS to stand up and do it. We may be loosing lives and yes that sucks but, we are saving hundrads, maybe even thousands by doing this. People need to stop looking at the world through Rose colored glasses and see the world for the screwed up place it is.....

Please back this up with facts. The saving lives part.
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OK this looks like a good place to put this.
I'm sick of everyone blaiming the lack of jobs on Bush, it's not all his fault. If you look at a time line you will see we were on a long streatch of jobs and such, and way over do for a economy crash. So stop blaiming Bush.


Now as for war, people need to stop making a big deal over the dead count it's war people die. It's sad it's tragic but it happens. Get Over It....... What we are doing to make the world safe is do to the fact that no other country had the world had the BALLS to stand up and do it. We may be loosing lives and yes that sucks but, we are saving hundrads, maybe even thousands by doing this. People need to stop looking at the world through Rose colored glasses and see the world for the screwed up place it is.....
ive gotta say nick wtf? there are alot bigger fish than iraq (north korea) as much as im sick of the piontless namecalling that goes on in this forum, and knowing that someone is about to call me all kinds of shit over this.

i stopped voting rep. becouse bush has done a shit job. and people are defending him for no other reson than there on the same team, and dont feel like thinking for themselves any more. they call whats going on a lib plot.
well im not a lib. and i can see it.

im all for lower taxes.
im all for ending welfare and most social programs.
i own more guns than most people on here, and trying to take them away will get someone shot.
im for the death pen.

what im not for=
deciding to go to war and then looking for resons
having you vice pres. blaming iraq for 911
after being called out on the 911/iraq lie having your vice pres. do it again
taking away our freedom (the patriot act) in the name of saving freedom
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saying that voting for anyone he dosnt aprove of is letting the terrorist win
free speach zones w/the pres. is in town

so go ahead and start calling me names i dont care i am a patriot and ill serve no man w/dreams of his own monarchy
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I can understand that, As for Bush I'm not looking to deffend him he has screwed up and lied, but I feal he has at least had the balls to stand up and do something about the problems in the world. even if he's not doing it right he's doing something. Ya North Korea is a problem, but Sadam needed to be held accountable for his actions. Now that he's dead we need to move on to the next big threat aka North Korea.

As for saving lives they may not be our peoples lives, the inasent live's of womem and childern of other country's. Ya we're hated over there big deal It's the bigger good that needs to be looked at.
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You then feel that putting our soilders lives in danger is okay because Sadam needed to be held accountable?

Then the next statment about NK leads me to believe that you are all for Team America World Police.
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You then feel that putting our soilders lives in danger is okay because Sadam needed to be held accountable?

Then the next statment about NK leads me to believe that you are all for Team America World Police.
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If that's how you feal and think that yes. Someone needs to stop these ruthless, mornonic death lords, and if it cost's a few lives to do so, So be it.
It's war it cause death that is a fact....... And it happens. Our soldiers knew that to die for what there country beleived in, was posible, there all adults and can make deistions for them selves. Ya I know we all, know people over there, might have kids over there, or other loved ones. And this in know way is ment to disrespect them, I have the ut-most respect for all them. It's just to point out that it needs to be done...
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http://www.bls.gov/cps/labor2005/chart1-2.pdf

Unemployment is at 4.5% I'd give Bush credit for this not blame him for it. Economy is the only thing going well for Bush.

I'm more worried about Iran then I am North Korea, but they both are problems for the US. Not because we are the worlds police but because they would both like to see our country in smoldering ruins.

Bush did what he had to do, protect the US from outside threats, one of the main reasons the federal government exists. Anyone who doesn't think threats to the US exist in the middle east hasn't been paying attention. Iraq is the first step in removing that threat.

A lot of people have lost sight of the big picture in the M.E., it isn't about just Iraq it's about all of the middle east. This area of the world holds most of the worlds oil supply, a supply that needs to remain stable if the world itself is going to remain stable. That is a national concern for the US, like it or not.

Soldiers put their lives in danger, it comes with the job. I doubt anyone in the armed services was unaware of that when they signed up.
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Unemployment is at 4.5% I'd give Bush credit for this not blame him for it. Economy is the only thing going well for Bush.

I'm more worried about Iran then I am North Korea, but they both are problems for the US. Not because we are the worlds police but because they would both like to see our country in smoldering ruins.

Bush did what he had to do, protect the US from outside threats, one of the main reasons the federal government exists. Anyone who doesn't think threats to the US exist in the middle east hasn't been paying attention. Iraq is the first step in removing that threat.

A lot of people have lost sight of the big picture in the M.E., it isn't about just Iraq it's about all of the middle east. This area of the world holds most of the worlds oil supply, a supply that needs to remain stable if the world itself is going to remain stable. That is a national concern for the US, like it or not.

Soldiers put their lives in danger, it comes with the job. I doubt anyone in the armed services was unaware of that when they signed up.
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If that's how you feal and think that yes. Someone needs to stop these ruthless, mornonic death lords, and if it cost's a few lives to do so, So be it.
It's war it cause death that is a fact....... And it happens. Our soldiers knew that to die for what there country beleived in, was posible, there all adults and can make deistions for them selves. Ya I know we all, know people over there, might have kids over there, or other loved ones. And this in know way is ment to disrespect them, I have the ut-most respect for all them. It's just to point out that it needs to be done...
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If that's how you feal and think that yes. Someone needs to stop these ruthless, mornonic death lords, and if it cost's a few lives to do so, So be it.
It's war it cause death that is a fact....... And it happens. Our soldiers knew that to die for what there country beleived in, was posible, there all adults and can make deistions for them selves. Ya I know we all, know people over there, might have kids over there, or other loved ones. And this in know way is ment to disrespect them, I have the ut-most respect for all them. It's just to point out that it needs to be done...
So why are you here and not fighting for your beliefs? I sure don't believe that the US should continue its world police stance and that is one reason why I am not in the military among many others.

This way of thinking has to involve a draft of some sort and I wonder if you think about that when you make those statements. Do you think about your kids, neighbors, nephews, paperboy that you are sending off to battle when you make statements like that?

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Ya my spelling sucks, I'm a machinist, I don't need to know how to spell.

I did inlist, but was sent home for being unfit, So I made a attempt to go over for what i beleave.

As for anyone that goes they knew what could happen when they inlisted.

And I'll sortly have a brother over there, And that makes my proud.
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So why are you here and not fighting for your beliefs? I sure don't believe that the US should continue its world police stance and that is one reason why I am not in the military among many others.

This way of thinking has to involve a draft of some sort and I wonder if you think about that when you make those statements. Do you think about your kids, neighbors, nephews, paperboy that you are sending off to battle when you make statements like that?


You seem to forget that the military is a volunteer force... No one was forced to join the military.
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ok i gotta jump in as far as the economy we keep giving jobs to "minortys" just because of who they are thats not fair you shopuld get a job because who you are not the background you have as far as the war whe had the problem for years and we should bombed thhe friggan country 93-94 when ever we wer over there that fucker sadam shoulda been bead then and leavle those fuckers asama benladen and his kids as far as jobs though we keep out sourcing jobs to mexico china and so on noone seams to see that ita just blame bush for it well aint the case this has been a long time comming before bush just my thoughts so dont go ranting an at me
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You seem to forget that the military is a volunteer force... No one was forced to join the military.
And you seem to not realize that if we are policing the world then the only way to have enough troops is to force them to join by a draft.
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So why are you here and not fighting for your beliefs? I sure don't believe that the US should continue its world police stance and that is one reason why I am not in the military among many others.

This way of thinking has to involve a draft of some sort and I wonder if you think about that when you make those statements. Do you think about your kids, neighbors, nephews, paperboy that you are sending off to battle when you make statements like that?
what the hell dont you undestand that if we dont fight for our freedome that those fuckers will take over and we will not have a free country have you even thought about that before you critasize someone for their beliefs and as far for spelling what the hell this isnt english class
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what the hell dont you undestand that if we dont fight for our freedome that those fuckers will take over and we will not have a free country have you even thought about that before you critasize someone for their beliefs and as far for spelling what the hell this isnt english class
Sorry I can't respond because I couldn't get though your whole rambling of words because I don't know where a thought (called sentences begin) starts and ends (usually is stopped with some sort of punctuation mark).

I saw freedom in there an can only imagine that you were talking about fighting for them and I want to let you know that I do fight for our freedom and that is why I'm against illegal wire tapping and the patriot act.

Edit: I also forgot to add that I fight for the right to keep guns as well.

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what the hell dont you undestand that if we dont fight for our freedome that those fuckers will take over and we will not have a free country have you even thought about that before you critasize someone for their beliefs and as far for spelling what the hell this isnt english class
who are "those fuckers"? and you're right, this isn't english class, but it's a hell of a lot easier to take someone seriously when they don't come off looking like a 1st grader or a mentally challenged person.
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