Anybody see a problem? - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Fabrication and body armor
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier All Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old December 21st, 2006, 02:34 PM   #1
fr3db3ar
KISS MY AVATAR
 
fr3db3ar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Holland
Posts: 5,429
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to fr3db3ar Send a message via AIM to fr3db3ar Send a message via Yahoo to fr3db3ar
Default Anybody see a problem?

useing 1.5" black pipe (thick wall) for just the ends of my control arms that hold the bushings? I had some (cheap ass as far as I'm concerned) adjustable control arms "DW Customs". They made them using tractor heim joints on the upper control arms with a piece of tube in the center (tacked on either side of the heim so it could only slide back and forth about 1/4") Which is stupid and I should have done more research.

Anyway.....I'm replacing those ends with a bushing end.

Thoughts? These are for front uppers on the body end.
fr3db3ar is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old December 21st, 2006, 02:46 PM   #2
Grandman
do i look old !
 
Grandman's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: West Branch Mi
Posts: 9,864
iTrader: (7)
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Default

I dont see an issue . Hell the orginal arms are really thin . 2 metal tabs for the most part with the bushing stuck in them .

by the way i played with a couple of them tractor joints too that i bought at TSC . Waste of time for sure .
Grandman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 21st, 2006, 02:48 PM   #3
VonDirt
Senior Member
 
VonDirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-06
Location: west side michigan
Posts: 629
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

pipe tends to be softer which isnt the best for that application. i would really recommend DOM or the like, if its seam welded, have that side perpindicular to the opposing tube so the weld covers each side 50/50.

im just down the road from you if you need a hand with it - i may have some in stock, ill check when i get a minute.
VonDirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 21st, 2006, 11:56 PM   #4
dune coon
do work
 
dune coon's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-12-06
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,568
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

fr3d, I'm using these for mine...You can buy them with the sleeve for $9 dollars more.

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...&cat=28&page=1
dune coon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 05:20 AM   #5
fr3db3ar
KISS MY AVATAR
 
fr3db3ar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Holland
Posts: 5,429
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to fr3db3ar Send a message via AIM to fr3db3ar Send a message via Yahoo to fr3db3ar
Default

I've got some fixed arms I can cut the ends off of. I was just trying to save some energy and cutting wheels.
fr3db3ar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 08:13 AM   #6
redmud
10 0011 10101
 
redmud's Avatar
 
Join Date: 03-26-06
Location: Fenton, MI
Posts: 2,335
iTrader: (33)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

So no TSC heim joints? I was thinking the same thing for control arms. crap. I was all excited about 'em.
redmud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 08:40 AM   #7
Haggar
Covered in mud...
 
Haggar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Oxford, MI
Posts: 17,601
iTrader: (55)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by VonDirt View Post
pipe tends to be softer which isnt the best for that application. i would really recommend DOM or the like, if its seam welded, have that side perpindicular to the opposing tube so the weld covers each side 50/50.

im just down the road from you if you need a hand with it - i may have some in stock, ill check when i get a minute.
Just depends on what type of 'pipe' you get. You can run the gamut.

Since its just short pieces, you could go to the steel yard and get that stuff for free, I'd wager, from the garbage bin. Certainly could at my yard. I'd look for some 0.25" wall HREW, or sch 80 pipe.
Haggar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 08:41 AM   #8
VonDirt
Senior Member
 
VonDirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-06
Location: west side michigan
Posts: 629
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by redmud View Post
So no TSC heim joints? I was thinking the same thing for control arms. crap. I was all excited about 'em.

a three point hitch is one thing - control arms are another. its just the wrong application thats all. they have incredibly poor tolerences in the joint itself, the threaded ones are way too coarse, not the right heat treatment - etc, etc.

however, their great to mock up different ideas or test things, just wouldnt run'em much beyond a test phase.
VonDirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 08:43 AM   #9
fr3db3ar
KISS MY AVATAR
 
fr3db3ar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Holland
Posts: 5,429
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to fr3db3ar Send a message via AIM to fr3db3ar Send a message via Yahoo to fr3db3ar
Default

Yeah.....the play in the joint is just incredible
fr3db3ar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 08:48 AM   #10
VonDirt
Senior Member
 
VonDirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-06
Location: west side michigan
Posts: 629
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggar View Post
Just depends on what type of 'pipe' you get. You can run the gamut.

Since its just short pieces, you could go to the steel yard and get that stuff for free, I'd wager, from the garbage bin. Certainly could at my yard. I'd look for some 0.25" wall HREW, or sch 80 pipe.


very true - the yard would be a better place to start.

specifically the last pile next to the cast iron on the west side at Black River Recycling, (on chicago drive)
VonDirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 08:54 AM   #11
VonDirt
Senior Member
 
VonDirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-06
Location: west side michigan
Posts: 629
iTrader: (19)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3db3ar View Post
Yeah.....the play in the joint is just incredible

?

if you compare an FK or Ultimate from Canada to TSC . . . theres nothing to compare, other than there all called "hiems".
VonDirt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 09:08 AM   #12
greenmeanie
Senior Member
 
greenmeanie's Avatar
 
Join Date: 08-10-06
Location: Hermitage, TN
Posts: 1,732
iTrader: (22)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

get a port city racing catalogue. (i think their site is portcityracing.com) they have tons of ends, and you can get the brand names and possibly buy from the company port city buys from.
greenmeanie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 10:48 AM   #13
fr3db3ar
KISS MY AVATAR
 
fr3db3ar's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: Holland
Posts: 5,429
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to fr3db3ar Send a message via AIM to fr3db3ar Send a message via Yahoo to fr3db3ar
Default

I'm going with bushings...they're just quieter
fr3db3ar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2006, 11:12 AM   #14
Jeeperz Creeperz
Senior Member
 
Jeeperz Creeperz's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-08-05
Location: Wyandotte, MI
Posts: 3,119
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via AIM to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via MSN to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via Yahoo to Jeeperz Creeperz
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dune coon View Post
fr3d, I'm using these for mine...You can buy them with the sleeve for $9 dollars more.

http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...&cat=28&page=1
Isn't that the Rubicon Express Super Ride Retro Fit kit that you can get for $23.95?
__________________
Jeeperz Creeperz, Inc.
1627 Eureka Rd
Wyandotte, MI 48192
734-281-8141
M-F 10am-7pm
Sat 10am-3pm
www.jeeperz-creeperz.com
Jeeperz Creeperz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 23rd, 2006, 12:25 AM   #15
dune coon
do work
 
dune coon's Avatar
 
Join Date: 02-12-06
Location: Grand Rapids
Posts: 1,568
iTrader: (6)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I don't know, is it?


I just order stuff from polyperformance. They have other things that I need as well, so i just buy from them. 5 dollars difference?//
dune coon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Fabrication and body armor

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:55 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.21580 seconds with 65 queries