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Old December 20th, 2006, 10:35 PM   #1
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Default Anyone in the Lansing/Sterling heights area have a TUBE bender?

junk90xj will loan me a pipe bender but I think everyone can agree that bending is easier with a tubing bender. If anyone has one locally, I'd be willing rent it from you for $20 for a week or so. I'd need a 1.25 die for it too, I'm making some tube fenders. pm me, thanks!
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if your using pipe you need a pipe bender. if your using tube what i have wont work for you.
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Old December 20th, 2006, 11:05 PM   #3
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if your using pipe you need a pipe bender. if your using tube what i have wont work for you.
I'm not sure yet what I'm going to use. if I can't get a tube bender, i'm going to go pipe... I might go pipe even if I can get a tube bender just for cost reasons . . . cuz as we talked today, I'm a cheap bastard....lol
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nothing wrong with cheap if it works. for the fenders pipe will be fine. just remember they measure pipe by ID not OD. haggar has an awesome thread above this one on poop pipe.:chiefwoohaw:
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Old December 21st, 2006, 12:59 AM   #5
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nothing wrong with cheap if it works. for the fenders pipe will be fine. just remember they measure pipe by ID not OD. haggar has an awesome thread above this one on poop pipe.:chiefwoohaw:

What do you think about using schedule 10 to keep the weight down or is it just not strong enough or i should stick with 40? I'll be using 1" pipe if I go pipe and i'm darn sure I'll go pipe. I might be making a run to alro after christmas. I was thinking about going to the drop center in Jackson, you ever been there?
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There won't be too much of a weight difference between the three materials:

1.25" x 0.120" wall HREW = 1.45 lbs/ft

sch 10 works out to:

1.315" x 0.109" wall = 1.41 lbs/ft

sch 40 is:

1.315" x 0.140" wall = 1.68" lbs/ft

Thats for 1" pipe. Its odd how it works, they don't actually measure it by ID. Its still sold by a nominal ID, but that doesn't correspond to the ID, but a constant OD. So all 1" pipe will be 1.315" OD.


My only concern with a pipe bender is if you can get the leading angle which is more or less a 90* bend. I don't have luck with mine doing that.

Although, I mainly work with larger pipe, of high-strength structural tubing, which is very strong and doesn't like to bend. The smaller stuff bends better. Its actually an application where using something like home-depot pipe might be better because its a bit 'softer'. Flat fenders aren't safety-critical like a cage so you've got more leeway. I'd definately pack the pipe full of sand or fine gravel(and ram it packed with a broom or something. It will help.
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hagger, do you think the thinner wall pipe would kink easier than say the schedule 40 if not packed? i think it would.

im lazy thats why i used 40 on everything so i dont have to pack the pipe with sand.

with that in mind though i think black pipe from home depot would work alot better than "normal" pipe for the fact its a softer metal in this application.
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No sure, as I haven't played with Sch 10. Everyone around me stocks 40.

I bought some 1" sch 40 black pipe from home depot for small stuff, and it bends great.

Most of my truck is done with 1-1/4" sch 40 A500 grade B structural tubing which is very strong and doesn't like to bend past about 60-70*.

I think you could do good with the depot stuff and it'd be plenty strong. On a set of flat fenders, you'd use, what about 4' per fender? 5' at most, so the different between all those option is about 1 lb finished weight per fender.
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if you find anone that lets you rent a tube bender for a week for $20, let me know...
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i used the same 1-1/4 pipe on my ex and ive got 90* bends all over it with no problem. as far as the fenders i agree with black pipe.
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Sounds like the general concensus is scd 40 black pipe from the homey depot should be plenty strong enough for flat fender applications and be soft enough to make the bends. If that's the case then that's what I'll use. I don't need a DOM fender, that just seems silly to me. I'm just going to be beating the crap out of them anyway....

Also thanks hagger for putting the weight into perspective. I wouldn't have guestimated alot more of a difference than that.

Ken, I'm going to pull the jeep into my garage in the next day or two and pull the fenders. I've got a design already laid out on paper and in my head so if you bender is free I might swing by and grab it, unless you prefer me to do the bending at you shop. Let me know!

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I get bored at work from time to time, so I busy myself making excel spreadsheets to do various things. So I have one that will calculate the weight of steel, flats/rounds/tubes/etc..

I'm always trying to be very weight concious when I'm building, so its helpful.
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I get bored at work from time to time, so I busy myself making excel spreadsheets to do various things. So I have one that will calculate the weight of steel, flats/rounds/tubes/etc..

I'm always trying to be very weight concious when I'm building, so its helpful.

Jason maybe you could post up that chart for weights...it would be helpful for alot of people. The gear calculater you made is awesome and helpful. I just hope people beside me make use of it
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A good idea... I'll make it all purty and post it sometime soon.
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Sounds like the general concensus is scd 40 black pipe from the homey depot should be plenty strong enough for flat fender applications and be soft enough to make the bends. If that's the case then that's what I'll use. I don't need a DOM fender, that just seems silly to me. I'm just going to be beating the crap out of them anyway....

Also thanks hagger for putting the weight into perspective. I wouldn't have guestimated alot more of a difference than that.

Ken, I'm going to pull the jeep into my garage in the next day or two and pull the fenders. I've got a design already laid out on paper and in my head so if you bender is free I might swing by and grab it, unless you prefer me to do the bending at you shop. Let me know!

you can grab it when ever you want.
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