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Old December 15th, 2006, 08:46 AM   #1
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Default Thinking about using Cyberdyne's digital gauges?

I just got off the phone with cyberdyne's tech support. I called ot make sure that the glass was sealed, in case of them getting rain or mud on them, that they wouldn't get moisture inside. The tech there stated that their gauges are for show cars that don't drive.

Yes, that is what the tech told me.

If you were to use them offroad, the volt meter, oil pressure, fuel gauge, temp gauge WILL NOT WORK, the volt meter will cut in and out, and the tach will be permanently damaged.



Doesn't look like their product holds up to their statement on their home page:
http://cyberdynegauges.net/

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Old December 15th, 2006, 10:46 AM   #2
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It figures, since (according to the Arnold Swartzenegger movies) they're the ones who are going to screw up and end the world anyway (Cyberdyne Systems).

I've had two vehicles with fully digital dashes (my old 87 6000 STE and my current 88 Eldo Biarritz). Digital sucks - you want analog gauges for the :

1) visibility - digital washes out in direct sun, like a topless vehicle
2) trend display - is it steady? climbing? falling? do you care about a 10 rpm or 3 degree difference?
3) relativity (is "150" high or low at a glance)?

There's a reason fighter jets have analog gauges for many purposes, or even simulate analog gauges on video / HUD units - it ain't cost...
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Old December 15th, 2006, 04:04 PM   #3
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It figures, since (according to the Arnold Swartzenegger movies) they're the ones who are going to screw up and end the world anyway (Cyberdyne Systems).

I've had two vehicles with fully digital dashes (my old 87 6000 STE and my current 88 Eldo Biarritz). Digital sucks - you want analog gauges for the :

1) visibility - digital washes out in direct sun, like a topless vehicle
2) trend display - is it steady? climbing? falling? do you care about a 10 rpm or 3 degree difference?
3) relativity (is "150" high or low at a glance)?

There's a reason fighter jets have analog gauges for many purposes, or even simulate analog gauges on video / HUD units - it ain't cost...

I'm going digital on Trans, water, and oil pressure and volt. Tach/speedo full sweep analog
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Old December 15th, 2006, 05:44 PM   #4
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well that seems like a good deal, how will they sell any if peopel actually know about the product.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 09:51 PM   #5
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It figures, since (according to the Arnold Swartzenegger movies) they're the ones who are going to screw up and end the world anyway (Cyberdyne Systems).

I've had two vehicles with fully digital dashes (my old 87 6000 STE and my current 88 Eldo Biarritz). Digital sucks - you want analog gauges for the :

1) visibility - digital washes out in direct sun, like a topless vehicle
2) trend display - is it steady? climbing? falling? do you care about a 10 rpm or 3 degree difference?
3) relativity (is "150" high or low at a glance)?

There's a reason fighter jets have analog gauges for many purposes, or even simulate analog gauges on video / HUD units - it ain't cost...

My 2 cents, since this is my job....

regarding #1: Thats a function of the gage design. When we spec displays, such as LED, LCD, or VF, we have minimum contrast ratios at full sunload, which still allow viewing. If they wash out, its inferior product or inferior design.

Regarding #2: Keep in mind that almost every car on the market(we are the largest manufacturer of gages/clusters in the world) the 'analog' gage you see is buffered severely so that the consumer doesn't see oil pressure fluctuations around hard corners or temp spikes. Some analog gages, for example many oil pressure gages) are not even sensor driven, but derived from equations or math models. So they are really just guessing and showing you a made up number that is meaningless but makes your customer think all is well.




My recommendation would be to stick with what works: Nice analog gages, mech or elec, based on your preference. Autometer is my pick, VDO(my company) is also very good, but isn't huge here for the car market..
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Yes Jesus , I have settled on the auto meter NV setup.. Now I need to find a place that will sell all 7 gauges at a discount, since they are not cheap... I can't believe I can't find a place that sells autometer kits..
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Old December 15th, 2006, 10:20 PM   #7
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I Put all VDO gauges in the YJ and been very happy.

Very accurate (i've checked them all to mechanical hook-ups) and the programmable speedo/odometer is a godsend
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I Put all VDO gauges in the YJ and been very happy.

Very accurate (i've checked them all to mechanical hook-ups) and the programmable speedo/odometer is a godsend
I need to snag some next time I go over to Babenhausen where we design the stand alone stuff. We are the OEM supplier for Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc. The porsche gages rock.
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Ultra Lite's get my vote. The Ultra Lite II's are even nicer
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yeah tool, you are looking at the most expensive NV gauge..

Go price the voltmeter. :tonka:
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yeah tool, you are looking at the most expensive NV gauge..

Go price the voltmeter. :tonka:
If thats got a wideband controller built in, the price isn't completely outrageous, if it has logging capabilities.
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Now I need to find a place that will sell all 7 gauges at a discount, since they are not cheap... I can't believe I can't find a place that sells autometer kits..
i need gauges too, tach, volt, trans temp, oil pressure, coolant temp. if you can get a deal adding 5 more in then i would be in for it.
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i need gauges too, tach, volt, trans temp, oil pressure, coolant temp. if you can get a deal adding 5 more in then i would be in for it.
ok, come monday I'm going to call around, and tell them I will have an order for 12 and see what kind of pricing we can get
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ok, come monday I'm going to call around, and tell them I will have an order for 12 and see what kind of pricing we can get
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Remember those sweet Autometer air/fuel gauges that hooked up to your factory O2? those were fuggin hot.
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