will rubi coils give an xj a lift? - Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest

Go Back   Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Jeep Tech
GL4x4 Live! GL4x4 Casino

greatlakes4x4.com is the premier Great Lakes 4x4 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old January 3rd, 2006, 08:35 PM   #1
mrclean
Silver Lake
 
mrclean's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: clarkston, mi
Posts: 6,297
iTrader: (141)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default will rubi coils give an xj a lift?

I didn't know if I used a set of rubi coils in front on my 98 xj, will it give it any type of lift? Of course I know I would have to have my rear leafs re-arched to match, just curious about doing a cheap lift on the front.
mrclean is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old January 3rd, 2006, 08:44 PM   #2
$500 MJ
MJ conosuer
 
$500 MJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-15-05
Location: Reed City, MI & Madison, WI
Posts: 570
iTrader: (7)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via MSN to $500 MJ
Default

Add a leafs work fine in the rear and usually will take less time to install rather than rearching your leafs and all. I had a spring shop make me mine from some stock leafs from a some truck (Idk which one, grabbed spring packs from a pile). When you separate the spring packs use C clamps. I can swap my leafs in and out in about 15 mins.

No clue on the Rubi coils, just thought I'd share some knowledge.

Last edited by $500 MJ; January 3rd, 2006 at 08:47 PM.
$500 MJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2006, 08:50 PM   #3
PavementPounder
I am the law.
 
PavementPounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Birmingham, Michigan 48009
Posts: 29,824
iTrader: (224)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

I have some stock XJ coils out of the XJ right now if you want to compare them to some Rubi coils.
PavementPounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2006, 08:59 PM   #4
mrclean
Silver Lake
 
mrclean's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: clarkston, mi
Posts: 6,297
iTrader: (141)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

thanks for the info on the leafs, I'll add-a-leaf instead. As far as comparing the coils, I might take you up on that pp.
mrclean is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2006, 09:39 PM   #5
amc78cj7
Senior Member
 
amc78cj7's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-07-05
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 5,353
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I have a pair of stock XJ coils you can have free for your comparison. Spro has to take them with him tomorrow though. I want them out of my garage.
amc78cj7 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2006, 10:26 PM   #6
nixxerRsixxer
Homewrecker
 
nixxerRsixxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: humanresources
Posts: 3,280
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to nixxerRsixxer Send a message via AIM to nixxerRsixxer Send a message via Yahoo to nixxerRsixxer
Default

TJ coils are shorter than XJ coils.. so no lift..

The 129/130 coils found on the Rubi/Sahara/Sport/Unlimited are the same..
__________________
He had a steady job and watched what he spent.
He'd say I don't believe in payin' no goddamn rent.
I'll squirrel away every goddamn cent
and buy my own damn house in Kalamazoo.
nixxerRsixxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 3rd, 2006, 10:30 PM   #7
Roadhouse
DrivewayJeeper
 
Roadhouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Sanford
Posts: 10,956
iTrader: (5)
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Default

I know a ZJ front coil in you're XJ will give you about 1" of lift.

But sorry I threw all mine away.
Roadhouse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 06:23 AM   #8
mrclean
Silver Lake
 
mrclean's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: clarkston, mi
Posts: 6,297
iTrader: (141)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyxis
TJ coils are shorter than XJ coils.. so no lift..

The 129/130 coils found on the Rubi/Sahara/Sport/Unlimited are the same..
that's kind of what I thought. Just thought I would ask before doing. What about putting an 1.75" puck in front and then lifting the rear? Could I fit 31's with an offset wheel?
mrclean is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 08:08 AM   #9
Jeeperz Creeperz
Senior Member
 
Jeeperz Creeperz's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-08-05
Location: Wyandotte, MI
Posts: 3,119
iTrader: (13)
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via AIM to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via MSN to Jeeperz Creeperz Send a message via Yahoo to Jeeperz Creeperz
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclean
that's kind of what I thought. Just thought I would ask before doing. What about putting an 1.75" puck in front and then lifting the rear? Could I fit 31's with an offset wheel?
A coil spacer and shackle lift will give you enough room to fit 30x9.50. To fit 31's you'll need 3" (depending on the year of the XJ).

Unless you're willing to trim....
Jeeperz Creeperz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 09:03 AM   #10
amc78cj7
Senior Member
 
amc78cj7's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-07-05
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 5,353
iTrader: (9)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

We added a Rustys 3" lift to our XJ to fit 31s. It was fairly cheap and came with an add-a-leaf and new front coils and shocks for under $245. Some people don't like Rustys though because sometimes deliveries are not very prompt. I find this to be status quoa in Jeep parts though (except the big distributors like 4wdh), so I just deal with it and know I will have a nice rig when I'm done. Just giving you a fore-warning so we don't see 20 posts about how "bad" Rustys is. Here is a link.

https://rustysoffroad.com/Merchant2/...ode=sus_xj_kit
amc78cj7 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 01:12 PM   #11
PavementPounder
I am the law.
 
PavementPounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Birmingham, Michigan 48009
Posts: 29,824
iTrader: (224)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

31's + OEM backspacking + 6" lift on a 98 XJ = rubbing on the rear swaybar on relatively low compression (turning into inclined driveways, etc). 30's will most likely hit it also with only a 3" lift. Remove the sway bay or get wheels with less backspacing.
PavementPounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 01:14 PM   #12
PavementPounder
I am the law.
 
PavementPounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Birmingham, Michigan 48009
Posts: 29,824
iTrader: (224)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

Just do it.

http://greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=2025
PavementPounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 01:28 PM   #13
mrclean
Silver Lake
 
mrclean's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: clarkston, mi
Posts: 6,297
iTrader: (141)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I ran a 3" BDS on a 97 xj I had and it cleared the 31's just fine. I used a stock wheel and had minimal rubbing at full turn. Only thing I didn't like was the ride (wife complained about it). I might try the Rusty's, $245 with shocks seems like a damn good deal. Pavement Pounder, I would run the 6" but this is her dd and I promissed I wouldn't go to extreme. Yours looks good though, just get some new meats.
mrclean is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 01:53 PM   #14
PavementPounder
I am the law.
 
PavementPounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Birmingham, Michigan 48009
Posts: 29,824
iTrader: (224)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

I'm not talking about rubbing LCA's at all, but mine barely touches them just like your old one does.

I'm talking about the rear tire going up into the fender and hitting the rear sway bar when running OEM rims with 4" of backspacing. I have a 6" lift with 31x10.5's and I still hit the sway bar hard when turning into parking lots or driveways that have a raised entrance. What I'm saying is that even with a 1" smaller tire, the fact that you will have 3" less lift will make the situation worse on yours than on mine in the rear if you intend to use our OEM rims and not remove the sway bar (like I am going to).

I just bought the 31's because I knew they would still rub with a 6" lift and no trimming on an OEM rim. Anything bigger and I'd start tearing off pieces of tire. Wheels with less backspacing would fix the swaybar problem, but a larger tire on a wheel with less backspacing would then start bashing the factory flares. I think FrankNBrew is running 33's now on his XJ and he had to add more lift than me and do a lot of trimming. Think he said he still rubs.
PavementPounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 02:04 PM   #15
Lothos
KD8GKB
 
Lothos's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-17-05
Location: .5 past lightspeed
Posts: 6,506
iTrader: (3)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to Lothos Send a message via AIM to Lothos Send a message via Yahoo to Lothos
Default

Rubi springs are of stiffer design than comparable TJ springs. They may be the same length, but TJ's using Rubi springs have yielded 1 inch in lift.
Lothos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 02:05 PM   #16
mrclean
Silver Lake
 
mrclean's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: clarkston, mi
Posts: 6,297
iTrader: (141)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

I'm going to change to aftermarket rims with less backspacing anyways. I'm not all that concerned with hitting in the wheel wells because I doubt this thing will ever see the trail or full flex.
mrclean is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 4th, 2006, 02:24 PM   #17
nixxerRsixxer
Homewrecker
 
nixxerRsixxer's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: humanresources
Posts: 3,280
iTrader: (1)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to nixxerRsixxer Send a message via AIM to nixxerRsixxer Send a message via Yahoo to nixxerRsixxer
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lothos
Rubi springs are of stiffer design than comparable TJ springs. They may be the same length, but TJ's using Rubi springs have yielded 1 inch in lift.
sorry no.. the 129 and 130 Pn# found on Rubis is also found on Saharas/Sports/Unlimiteds..
__________________
He had a steady job and watched what he spent.
He'd say I don't believe in payin' no goddamn rent.
I'll squirrel away every goddamn cent
and buy my own damn house in Kalamazoo.
nixxerRsixxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 6th, 2006, 01:28 AM   #18
PavementPounder
I am the law.
 
PavementPounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-05-05
Location: Birmingham, Michigan 48009
Posts: 29,824
iTrader: (224)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrclean
I'm going to change to aftermarket rims with less backspacing anyways. I'm not all that concerned with hitting in the wheel wells because I doubt this thing will ever see the trail or full flex.
Okay, and its good that you are going to get less backspacing, but I never said anything about hitting any wheelwells. The problem back there is the swaybar, swaybar, swaybar, swaybar, swaybar, swaybar.




Did I mention I was talking about the rear swaybar?:tonka:
PavementPounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 6th, 2006, 09:04 AM   #19
mrclean
Silver Lake
 
mrclean's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-06-05
Location: clarkston, mi
Posts: 6,297
iTrader: (141)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PavementPounder
Okay, and its good that you are going to get less backspacing, but I never said anything about hitting any wheelwells. The problem back there is the swaybar, swaybar, swaybar, swaybar, swaybar, swaybar.






Did I mention I was talking about the rear swaybar?:tonka:
wow, never had a problem before, don't see myself having a problem now.
mrclean is online now   Reply With Quote
Old January 6th, 2006, 10:30 AM   #20
Lothos
KD8GKB
 
Lothos's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11-17-05
Location: .5 past lightspeed
Posts: 6,506
iTrader: (3)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Send a message via ICQ to Lothos Send a message via AIM to Lothos Send a message via Yahoo to Lothos
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nyxis
sorry no.. the 129 and 130 Pn# found on Rubis is also found on Saharas/Sports/Unlimiteds..

That must have changed after the 2003 model then. Every Rubi owner that year tried the spring swap from their rubi's to other TJ's and got 1 inch of lift.
Lothos is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Great Lakes 4x4. The largest offroad forum in the Midwest > 4x4 Talk > Jeep Tech

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:40 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright 2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Page generated in 0.28214 seconds with 80 queries