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Old December 11th, 2006, 05:35 PM   #1
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full spool vs. detroit locker

i just got a dana 44 that i am going to build for my jeep yj. just wondering people's opinions on full spools vs. a detroit locker.
how much faster do tires wear w/ the spool is my main question.
i drive my jeep on the street a lot, but i also go off road a lot. it has 35 inch super swamper sx's (non radial).
should i go w/ the detroit since it allows for wheel spin, making my tires last longer?? who likes what? thanks.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:09 PM   #2
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Detroit

I run a Miller Locker on the street, because I am too lazy to swap another center section into my 8 3/4. But it kills tires, and you should see how my TJ leans when I make a turn with the wheel at full lock on pavement. :tonka:
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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:14 PM   #3
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depends if its in front or rear. in the front i'd run the detroit, rear i'd weld it, or spool it.

reason being taht in the rear, a detroit unlocks only when there is no power going at the wheels, so welded in the rear (in my opinion) isbetter because it is much more consistent, and the tire wear won't be much different unless you coast around every corner you encounter.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:16 PM   #4
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well, if you have lockouts on the front you could weld it, Id detroit the rear and limited slip the front, or vice versa.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:16 PM   #5
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You don't have to coast around corners to unlock a Detroit.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:31 PM   #6
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You don't have to coast around corners to unlock a Detroit.
that the only time the new softlocker in my chevy 2500 unlocks...and they are way better for unlocking than the old ones...so please enlighten me.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:45 PM   #7
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the 44 is in the rear. i had a detroit in my d-35 for a few days (then broke the ring gear), and never even heard it around corners; that's why i want to get another for the 44. i'm a bit leary about the spools/welding, especially on wet roads with the sx's; they are already not too great on the road.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 06:56 PM   #8
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i would use a detroit if it sees as much road driving as you are talking. you wont really feel the detroit very much but welded it will be a pain.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 07:14 PM   #9
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manual or auto transmission?
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Old December 11th, 2006, 09:39 PM   #10
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it's an auto. anyone use the e-z lockers? i have a tru-trac for front; anyone use them on the rear? those 2 are also in the debate because of their price compared to the detroit
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Old December 11th, 2006, 11:57 PM   #11
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since its an auto, it should do better on the road with a detroit than a manual. up to you mainly.

one of my housemates runs a truetrac in the front of his jeep (chevy 44 full width front, 12 bolt rear) and it does fine...i dont think its given him any problems.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 11:32 AM   #12
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I'm running a spool in the rear of my CJ7 with a D44. I bought the spool in August after I broke my spider gears at the Mounds. It was cheap and I haven't had a problem with it at all. I'm running 35" BFG ATs and haven't had a problem with tire wear either and I drive mine to work just about every day of the week. I wouldn't use it on the street if I had agressive off road tires though. It squawks in parking lots with these hard rubber ATs so I think it would eat up a pair of aggressive, soft rubber tires pretty quick.

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Old December 12th, 2006, 02:39 PM   #13
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It might be apples to oranges, but I installed a spool in my Mustang which was driven daily. It was annoying as hell. Especially in turnarounds and parking lots. I was also running very sticky tires, so it felt like the 8.8 was going to break around slow, tight turns.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 09:32 AM   #14
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It might be apples to oranges, but I installed a spool in my Mustang which was driven daily. It was annoying as hell. Especially in turnarounds and parking lots. I was also running very sticky tires, so it felt like the 8.8 was going to break around slow, tight turns.
Those issues would be compounded with a lifted jeep on 35's plus others.

Go detroit.
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Old December 13th, 2006, 09:36 AM   #15
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i think i will get either the softlocker or true trac; let the debate begin on those if anyone wants :tonka:
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Old December 13th, 2006, 09:39 AM   #16
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Those issues would be compounded with a lifted jeep on 35's plus others.

Go detroit.

Actually the affects will be less that way. SXs don't grip the road as well as something like a street tire, so the tires will 'scrub' easier instead of trying to grip going around a corner...it will be even easier on them if you run higher tire pressure on the street.
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Actually the affects will be less that way. SXs don't grip the road as well as something like a street tire, so the tires will 'scrub' easier instead of trying to grip going around a corner...it will be even easier on them if you run higher tire pressure on the street.
Ummm ok.

Having a sports car, which has a locker and feels very bound on the street is one thing. Having a SWB jeep with a lift, soft springs, high center of gravity and 15 inch wide tires is another. You will get added boddy lean, tires lifting on tight corners, and binding. But what do I know I sold my lifted jeep with SX's years ago.
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Old December 16th, 2006, 08:53 AM   #18
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i think i will get either the softlocker or true trac; let the debate begin on those if anyone wants :tonka:
If you want a locker, get an actual locker.
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Old December 16th, 2006, 09:30 AM   #19
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