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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:26 AM   #1
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How dare someone bother this lady while she is praying at the gym.

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Muslim woman cites gym after interrupted prayer

Dearborn resident says her complaint to Fitness USA manager about patron went unheeded.

Gregg Krupa / The Detroit News

DEARBORN -- Fitness USA, a gym chain, is investigating an alleged civil rights violation involving a local Muslim woman who says her afternoon prayer was interrupted by a fellow patron, and that her complaint to management about the situation was rejected.

"The manager told me, 'You have to respect her (the patron), but she does not have to respect your God,' " said Wardeh Sultan of Dearborn. "I've had my membership for seven or eight years, and I've never had a problem with praying there.

"I told that manager, 'I can't believe you said that' " Sultan said. "Honestly, I feel humiliated and I feel ashamed, right now, to go back to Fitness USA."

Local representatives of Fitness USA, which operates branches throughout Metro Detroit and in two other states, referred all inquiries regarding the matter to their corporate offices.

"We will, as we will with any complaint involving our staff and a member, be doing a full and thorough investigation of the matter and take any appropriate action we need to take," said Jodi Berry, executive director of Fitness USA. "We want every member to get a good exercise experience every time they come to the club."

Berry said she learned of the complaint on Monday.

The allegations are among a series of recent complaints by Muslims who say they are free to practice their religion in the United States, until someone tells them they cannot. Recently, the same Fitness USA facility enacted a new dress code to allow Muslim women to wear more modest clothing, in compliance with some Islamic practices.

Two weeks ago, six Muslim clerics were removed from a U.S. Airways flight after three of them said their evening prayers in the St. Paul-Minneapolis International Airport.

Passengers and employees of the airline said later that their suspicions were aroused when the men were overheard making comments critical of the United States, and because the men had one-way tickets and no baggage.

The airline and the civil rights office of U.S. Department of Homeland Security are investigating that incident.

Imad Hamad, regional director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, which lodged a formal complaint with Fitness USA on behalf of Sultan, said the recent spate of conflicts results from a growing intolerance of Islam and a growing restiveness among Muslims that their rights to speak freely and worship are increasingly at risk.

"They (Muslims) are resenting that they are to be suppressed from expressing themselves freely, like others," Hamad said.

"It's OK for a Christian fellow or a Jewish fellow to pray, and it would be regarded highly and respected. When it comes to a person of Muslim faith, especially if a woman is wearing the head cover or a man with a typical clergy outfit, yeah, it is becoming like something that is offensive to people and making them nervous."

Sultan said that, like all pious Muslims, she prays five times daily. She also wears a veil and a long dress, in observance of her faith.

Born in Jordan, of Palestinian descent, Sultan arrived in Detroit 17 years ago, before moving to Dearborn. She is an American citizen.

Sultan said she came to the United States to secure her freedom and to avoid intolerance.

"We're here in the great United States and for this happening, it truly breaks my heart," she said. "You know, things are starting to change backwards, instead of frontward. We need to keep this United States, our country, up on our shoulders. We don't want it to go down."
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:28 AM   #2
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Muslims workout?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:43 AM   #3
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seriously though, don't you typically go to the GYM for EXERCISE? not to pray.


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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:46 AM   #4
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I was doing jumping jacks at church the other day and people started getting pissy with me.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:58 AM   #5
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Terrorist have fu*!ed things up for everyone, I have no sympathy. Maybe someone thought she was a suicide bomber getting ready to flip out. I don't know the first thing about their religion but you would think they would want to do their praying in private. Whats the deal at certain times of the day they need to roll a rug out and start bowing down? People fear what they don't understand what did she expect.

"It's OK for a Christian fellow or a Jewish fellow to pray, and it would be regarded highly and respected.

I don't agree with this statement either, anyone praying in public (unless their in a church) would make me uncomfortable. I'm not talking about just a simple prayer, but anything over 20 seconds and you'll start freaking me out.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 03:26 AM   #6
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thats bullshit. Yes i would feel very uncomfortable if i saw them get on an airplane with me.

I would also feel uncomfortable if i saw them pray. This is gonna be like one of those "because i'm black" things. Person at the fitness place will probably be fired. Not like they can controll other peoples actions
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Old December 6th, 2006, 07:09 AM   #7
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As a former dearborn resident (before 09/11/2001), I tried my best not to hate arabic people based on my personal experiences with them.

One quick thought - how far would a similar complaint get in a muslim-based country?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 07:26 AM   #8
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omfg.

Can you imagine what a muslim at a gym smells like? holy fricken cow.

I always laugh at the deodarant for sale behind the muslim working at the gas station in detroit. I laugh because you can usually smell them through the bullet proof glass
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"It's OK for a Christian fellow or a Jewish fellow to pray, and it would be regarded highly and respected.

I don't agree with this statement either, anyone praying in public (unless their in a church) would make me uncomfortable. I'm not talking about just a simple prayer, but anything over 20 seconds and you'll start freaking me out.
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When public schools and other public locations don't allow a bunch of Christians or Jews to pray together, but have to accomodate an entire gym to allow all the Muslims to pray and miss class. BS
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omfg.

Can you imagine what a muslim at a gym smells like? holy fricken cow.

I always laugh at the deodarant for sale behind the muslim working at the gas station in detroit. I laugh because you can usually smell them through the bullet proof glass
I have to agree with you. Fordson was in our league and boy did they ever offend the nose!!

But anyhow, what did the Fitness USA person do wrong?

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When I saw this headline on Drudge, I just KNEW it was gonna be Dearborn...

If they want to do business in east Dearborn, they will have to honor Muslim sensibilities, period - that's the market, right or wrong.

If this was a Muslim country, the non-Muslim prayer wouldn't be allowed in public. Just like US troops in Saudi Arabia aren't allowed to display xmas trees, crosses, or 6-pointed stars publicly. Women can't operate moter vehicles off base.
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well you cant blame the non muslims. I am still waiting for the majority of the muslim leaders to decry violence and terror. They wont so by standing with vioilence and leaders THEY lump all the muslims to gether. Dont blame some soccer mom trying to work out for getting nervouse she didnt pull the idea out of thin air, its 30 years of terrorism and bombings THEY put in her head. Its like shell shock, or tramatic stress disorder people now have permanent associations of islam with terror, and devot acts of flamoyant praying in public like that are just not welcome. Get used to it.

Go start a muslim focused gym with that other muslim broad who didnt want men to be able to look at her working out. As if all the white dudes were lusting after her in her robe and burka.
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I'm still trying to figure out what Fitness USA did wrong in the matter.
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I'm still trying to figure out what Fitness USA did wrong in the matter.
the arab chic didnt like the angle they took. The offended non muslim woman was made uncomfortable, went and complained. The fitness USA guy said :

"The manager told me, 'You have to respect her (the patron), but she does not have to respect your God,' " said Wardeh Sultan of Dearborn. "I've had my membership for seven or eight years, and I've never had a problem with praying there.

she seems to be looking for reason to be offended. I dont think he meant your god is crap she doesnt have to respect your god on a philosophical level, he meant you have to respect everyone elses space and do that crap in your head or at home. The complainee "respect" DOES NOT mean pretend its not bothering here. Which is what he muslim woman wants. RESPECT=YOU PRENTEND I AM NOT OUT OF LINE.
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the arab chic didnt like the angle they took. The offended non muslim woman was made uncomfortable, went and complained. The fitness USA guy said :

"The manager told me, 'You have to respect her (the patron), but she does not have to respect your God,' " said Wardeh Sultan of Dearborn. "I've had my membership for seven or eight years, and I've never had a problem with praying there.

she seems to be looking for reason to be offended. I dont think he meant your god is crap she doesnt have to respect your god on a philosophical level, he meant you have to respect everyone elses space and do that crap in your head or at home. The complainee "respect" DOES NOT mean pretend its not bothering here. Which is what he muslim woman wants. RESPECT=YOU PRENTEND I AM NOT OUT OF LINE.
I guess that is what I'm getting at and you see it as well, the FitUSA didn't do anything wrong. What a stupid bitch and a complete waste of time.
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I guess that is what I'm getting at and you see it as well, the FitUSA didn't do anything wrong. What a stupid bitch and a complete waste of time.

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So basically, you and stan agree on everything.. Kinda like brothers
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During WWII we locked up all the Japanese after they bombed a Military base (pearl Harbor)

During war 9/11 or whatever Let's lock up all the middle easterners.
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I guess that is what I'm getting at and you see it as well, the FitUSA didn't do anything wrong. What a stupid bitch and a complete waste of time.
ok i agree i took it as what you were asking SHE THOUGHT they did wrong. Clearly they did nothign wrong.
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I feel a group hug coming on.

Woohaw is almost graduated and he's already turning into a republican ....


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Yes, she was wrong but . . . in 2008!!
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