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Old December 1st, 2006, 08:27 AM   #1
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Default How does an immigrant have rights under the Constitution if they are not citizens yet

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The US government has unveiled a new citizenship test for immigrants which will focus on the concepts of democracy rather than on historical facts.

However, immigrant rights groups have rejected the new test, describing it as an anti-immigrant measure.

Officials said the aim was to encourage immigrants to learn about the country's civic values to become better citizens.

The new questions will be tried out on immigrant volunteer groups before being included in the new test.

The plans to revamp the citizenship exam were announced by the director of the US government's Citizenship and Immigration Services, Emilio Gonzalez.

Mr Gonzalez says those who want to become US citizens should not be allowed to do so by simply rattling off historical facts they have memorised but should show a passion for the country of which they are becoming an integral part. The new questions will require those taking the exam to demonstrate a deeper understanding of the American political system and its history.

Prospective citizens will, for example, be asked to explain the conditions which led to the US civil war - unlike the current test in which they simply have to answer that it freed the slaves.

However, immigrant rights groups have raised serious concerns about the new test which they say is an anti-immigrant measure which simply aims to make it harder for immigrants to become US citizens.

And, the fact is that most of the eight million immigrants who already meet the necessary basic requirements for citizenship are for the most part native Spanish speakers.

That will, no doubt, make it difficult for them to explain complicated concepts related to the US political system in English - a language of which many of them have little more than a basic command.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 02:34 AM   #2
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yea its bullshit. Either way we get screwd.... we pay for them to use our court systems, if they get hurt while there here not legally.. they can sue our asses and take money from us. They don't pay tax's .... fawk that shit
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:19 AM   #3
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Poor poor illegal imigrants. I think it's time to look at other countires imigration policies to come up with ours. Make our policies just as hard as theirs and then we'll really see the shat hit the fan.
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Poor poor illegal imigrants. I think it's time to look at other countires imigration policies to come up with ours. Make our policies just as hard as theirs and then we'll really see the shat hit the fan.
OMFG - I find myself in agreement with Woohaw, CMU, or whatever!

btw - The Constitution applies to citizens.
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I like how their complaint is that it iwll make it harder for immigrants to get in...um...i think thats the point o.0
though i have a feeling that will mean more will just come in illegally
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Its all about the votes that either party can get from Mexican americans. There are a lot of legal immigrants that have illegal family members. I cant remember the numbers, but Mexican american (legals) supply lots of votes. Otherwise nobody would care less about them. Plus dont forget the business owners that are supplying the illegals jobs.
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I will not refer to them as illegal immigrants. I think illegal alien is more fitting.

al·ien
1. a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen).
2. a foreigner.
3. a person who has been estranged or excluded.
4. a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.
–adjective 5. residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without having or obtaining the status of citizenship there.
6. belonging or relating to aliens: alien property.
7. unlike one's own; strange; not belonging to one: alien speech.
8. adverse; hostile; opposed (usually fol. by to or from): ideas alien to modern thinking.
9. extraterrestrial.

im·mi·grant
1. a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence.
2. an organism found in a new habitat.
–adjective 3. of or pertaining to immigrants and immigration: a department for immigrant affairs.
4. immigrating.
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