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Old December 3rd, 2006, 11:30 PM   #21
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Just comes down to what you do with them. 90%+ of wheeling in MI is daytime stuff, and most of that remaining 10% is at speeds what will not run out the range on a standard set of nice driving lights.

You'll find that the are that most 4x4s are lacking is in proper flood lighting in front, behind, and under their rigs.

Our night runs on Slickrock and Schoolbus in Tellico made this painfully clear. Spotters couldn't see the rocks 20 ft in front of the Jeeps. What good are HIDs to light up the 1000 ft in front of the Jeep, if you can't see the ledge 20 ft in front, or the trail behind.

Wow you are really getting dumber. I drive fast at night on the trail and I do alot of night wheeling. Hell in a given year I would say 80% of my total driving is done at night and 50% of my wheeling is in the dark. Have you ever heard of flashlights? Sort of a new technology I know, but flashlights are great for spotters to use at night when trying to locate obstacles and light their way on the trail. you can pick them up at most hardware and thrift stores for a couple bucks. If you want a nice light though try Mag-lite they are almost bulletproof and they are bright for a handheld light.
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Old December 3rd, 2006, 11:40 PM   #22
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Yeah, that's a great idea. Go get a flashlight, get in front of a guy that's having a hard time seeing the trail (and apparently driving fast as you say), and then point the light back at him at obstacles.
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Wow you are really getting dumber. I drive fast at night on the trail and I do alot of night wheeling. Hell in a given year I would say 80% of my total driving is done at night and 50% of my wheeling is in the dark. Have you ever heard of flashlights? Sort of a new technology I know, but flashlights are great for spotters to use at night when trying to locate obstacles and light their way on the trail. you can pick them up at most hardware and thrift stores for a couple bucks. If you want a nice light though try Mag-lite they are almost bulletproof and they are bright for a handheld light.
LOL. Don't you have trouble with your beer flying out of the bed when you drive fast, though?


Flashlights are a joke compared to real lighting. When you are standing in front of a truck with its lights on, a flashlight will not be enough light for you to see a good picture of whats going on. You'll be otherwise blind, except for a little 2 ft spot for your flashlight. Sorry pal, go do real trails at night. Rock lights, and wide pattern floods that can be aimed downwards are the way to go. If the trail turns every 100 ft, why bother to light up the trees 1000 ft past the trail?

If you actually drive fast down two tracks, then yeah, thats the kind of rig that can use those lights. I beleive I said that. And you are in the small minority of people who do that.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:19 PM   #24
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Hmm I managed to do Hells Revenge in the dark with a flashlight and running lights on. I guess I'm just a better driver than you?

The point of a spotter is that you don't have to see the trail

Now go put a set of neons on your jap crap and tell me how cool you are for inventing something the ricers have done for years.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:27 PM   #25
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ok, not one comment to the question I asked, except for skooterbuilt.

umm yeah,

ok, anyways, I've decided to go with the lightforce 240 HID's..

Thanks for all your input about KC lights and maglights though.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:33 PM   #26
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oh yeah, and for you haters:

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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:36 PM   #28
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I never answered the original post so here it goes.

I have a pair of KC Daylighters on the front mounted just below the headlight plane. I have IPF H4 conversions for the headlights and a set of cheap $20 fog lights from walmart mounted low on the bumper for floods. In the rear bumper I have a pair of 55w driving lights that are aimed 1 low 1 high so I can see everything behind me. I also have a Mag-lite next to the drivers seat and a couple of Lazer Brites for various needs of navigating and hiking in the dark.

My jeep is a tow rig, daily driver, weekend wheeler, and even camper for weeks on end. I have never had a lighting problem with anything up close or far away. I have never hit a deer on accident or had anything I couldn't see or handle with my current lighting. If there was one thing I would add it would be a moveable exterior spotlight like they have on cop cars.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 05:56 PM   #29
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I avoid wheeling at night. The few times I've done it I've ended up wrenching on my rig using a lighter cuz my flashlight took a dump.
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Have to agree with Jesus on the rock lights and some type of lighting for the front pointing down for the first few feet. It would have made thinks alot easier on our last run.

As for CC and 2k lights................hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Ok, I was just sent proof of purchase for LightForce lights from CC.
I'm sorry that I laughed at you.

Your a baller, I'm not.
Your hardcore, I'm not.


But I refuse to admit, like you asked me to do, that you have a bigger penis.
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Ok, I was just sent proof of purchase for LightForce lights from CC.
I'm sorry that I laughed at you.

Your a baller, I'm not.
Your hardcore, I'm not.


But I refuse to admit, like you asked me to do, that you have a bigger penis.


just remember, that everything on my YJ is done for one reason, and that is to make it better then yours
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your fucking lights cost 3 times what i had into my entire rig..
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just remember, that everything on my YJ is done for one reason, and that is to make it better then yours
I'm waiting until yours is done.

Then it's going back to KillerB's (if necessary):tonka:

Hmmmmm..........deeper pockets, bigger e-penis.
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I'm waiting until yours is done.

Then it's going back to KillerB's (if necessary):tonka:

Hmmmmm..........deeper pockets, bigger e-penis.
I don't care if I am living in my yj because I had to sell my house, I will have a better yj.
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All I can say, is that you willl DEFINATELY be able to see the other side of your barn now, with those new lights. Very cool.
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what a dick
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cool lights but not worth the price in my opinion
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All I can say, is that you willl DEFINATELY be able to see the other side of your barn now, with those new lights. Very cool.

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I hooked them up to a battery earlier today, and I am pretty sure I don't need any more lights on the front of the jeep.
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