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Old November 25th, 2006, 08:38 AM   #1
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has anyone run fuel oil in there diesel truck?? just wondering if theres any side effects. supposed to just be off road deisel fuel. thinking about running some because ive been donated about 100 gallons


of course off road only though. i would never run non taxed fuel on road. thats just immoral
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Old November 25th, 2006, 01:09 PM   #2
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know what number fuel oil it is before using it

#1 oil has less btu than #3
but number #3 oil has more particulate matter than #1
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Old November 25th, 2006, 02:06 PM   #3
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so which would be better to run?
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Old November 25th, 2006, 02:40 PM   #4
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I don't know anything about fuel oil, but the first thing that comes to mind is that the principle of diesel operation is that it combusts when it reaches a certain temperature by way of compression. If the fuel oil does not share the same properties, it may ignite early or not at all.

If its really off-road diesel I would imagine that it may work, but the energy output would be something to look into like XJMichigan said.
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from the old days on the powerstroke forums, it was decided that a 50% fuel oil 50% diesel mix would be just fine. Reason for not doing 100% fuel oil is the inconsistancies and impuraties compared to diesel. No idea on you shitty GM diesels thougfh
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Home fuel oil is #2 diesel. Yes, you can use it in your vehicle, but the sulfur content is much higher than road diesel. I think the 50% mix is a good idea.
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cool thanks all for the info.. i got a couple of 50 gallon drums coming.. wanted to make sure i could use it before i got it.
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I don't know anything about fuel oil, but the first thing that comes to mind is that the principle of diesel operation is that it combusts when it reaches a certain temperature by way of compression. If the fuel oil does not share the same properties, it may ignite early or not at all.

If its really off-road diesel I would imagine that it may work, but the energy output would be something to look into like XJMichigan said.
You don't need to worry about early ignition though, there's no fuel to pre-ignite with a diesel. It's injection is roughly at TDC.

I think that the higher sulphur content is a relatively good thing though, it's more lubricity. The more particulates though . . . depends on the kind of truck you have. Old dumb diesels like 12v Cummins and old IDI Fords probably won't matter. (by dumb, I mean not computerized)


That's about all I know, I don't know specifics.
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# 2 fuel oil is diesel fuel , there is no difference in home heating oil , off raod fuel and what you buy out of the pump until just recently when the sulfur content was mandated to a much lower level .

Unless you truck is brand new it was meant ot run on # 2 fuel oil . Tax and the die thats put in it to tell if you paid tax was the only difference .

# 1 fuel oil is to thin and will run hot burning up a piston , It lacks lubricity .

I dont think you will find # 3 fuel any where around .

The new low sulfur fuel will have a simular effect , the lubricty will be much lower . The diesel that ran 500,000 miles will not do so on this new fuel . There is all ready new oil out to help compensate this fuel but i dont know how effective it will be .
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I have delt with people putting the wrong fuels in their rides. I had one from the AV gas people out in A2 that burned up the engine because they were running old jet A in it. its pure kerosene ment to burn at high temp. it smoked the piston rings because of pre ignition. the Av fuel people refused to beleive that fuel caused the engine to fail.
I would think it would be no problem at all to run a mix of fuel. I would consider carring a spare fuel filter just in case.
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I would consider carring a spare fuel filter just in case.

I forgot to mention that, yes, carry a spare fuel filter...
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I have delt with people putting the wrong fuels in their rides. I had one from the AV gas people out in A2 that burned up the engine because they were running old jet A in it. its pure kerosene ment to burn at high temp. it smoked the piston rings because of pre ignition. the Av fuel people refused to beleive that fuel caused the engine to fail.
I would think it would be no problem at all to run a mix of fuel. I would consider carring a spare fuel filter just in case.

If this stuff you have is not # 2 oil dont run it even mixed . If its # 2 oil its diesel pure and simple .

Some top grade diesel mechs have told me we could run no more then 5 gallon of kerosene per 50 gallon tank of diesel to prevent gelling in winter .

If it was kerosene at 50/50 you will cook your ride as yettie points out .
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Would running the kerosene show higher pyro temps??
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If you're running the #2 fuel oil in the winter you will have to add something to keep it from gelling. I'm not sure about the kerosene thing but I know you can get anti-gelling additive at any truck parts store.
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I could have not said it better Grandman
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I have delt with people putting the wrong fuels in their rides. I had one from the AV gas people out in A2 that burned up the engine because they were running old jet A in it. its pure kerosene ment to burn at high temp. it smoked the piston rings because of pre ignition. the Av fuel people refused to beleive that fuel caused the engine to fail.
I would think it would be no problem at all to run a mix of fuel. I would consider carring a spare fuel filter just in case.
Would running the av gas or kerosene raise the pyro temps to burn the rings, or how would it destroy internals??
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I RAIN #2 THROUGHT MY RAM ALL LAST WINTER ABOUT EVERY 3RD TANK I MIXED 5 GALLONS OF KEROSENE AND NEVER HAD A PROBLEM

I AM RUNNING VEGE-DIESEL NOW $0.97 /GAL
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[QUOTE=Grandman;324033
The new low sulfur fuel will have a simular effect , the lubricty will be much lower . The diesel that ran 500,000 miles will not do so on this new fuel . There is all ready new oil out to help compensate this fuel but i dont know how effective it will be .[/QUOTE]

Grandman,

I have the answer to this, you need to put Diesel Plus in your tank, it's made by Conklin. It brings the lube factor back up, keeps it from jelling and also acts as a dryer.
http://www.conklin.com/catalog/prod_...1&m=g47679825_

Let me know if you would like to try it.
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