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Old June 19th, 2014, 04:24 PM   #21
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Funny you say that. I rarely use my shoulder belts because I want to stick my head out the window to see.
I am very guilty of this as well. I need to stop.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 05:07 PM   #22
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positively wear your laps, sub and shoulders!! trust me on this one!

it was my rig that Jim was talking about.

we were headed down a very steep hill at the Cliffs (here in IL) and caught a tree stump with the pass front tire. we were only rolling a couple mphs but was steep enough that the rear end came over the top of us when the front tire dead stopped due to the stump.

we went end over end atleast once and then barrel rolled once as well. I remember 2 violent impacts and we came to rest on the d-side. I made sure my daughter was ok and we proceeded to climb out.

sorry, no pics since it was the last thing on my mind. the cage did it's job as well as the harmess' and we walked away. many spots on the rig that are bent or tweaked badly and the frame is bent quite a bit too.

I should know by next week if we can save it (is it worth whatever labor needed) and if we can't, then I'll be going to most likely a tube chassis and swap all my stuff over to that.


thanks for posting Jim. just wanted a reminder out there for everyone to please not take safety for granted. it only takes once.

I'll be in a sling for about a month letting the broken collarbone heal and I'll be lucky to wheel anytime this year. even more frustrating after being out for the last 2 years due to major surgery on my right shoulder and now one mistake and I'm for a while again (I'll be healed before we can get a rig together).

guess I'll have to shoot for the next Snofari

figured posting would clear up some questions that folks might have
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Old June 19th, 2014, 05:29 PM   #23
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After that YJ rolled at the Pig Gig at Grandman's, my jeep went in with a month to get a full cage and harnesses/seats installed.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 10:53 PM   #24
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positively wear your laps, sub and shoulders!! trust me on this one!

it was my rig that Jim was talking about.

we were headed down a very steep hill at the Cliffs (here in IL) and caught a tree stump with the pass front tire. we were only rolling a couple mphs but was steep enough that the rear end came over the top of us when the front tire dead stopped due to the stump.

we went end over end atleast once and then barrel rolled once as well. I remember 2 violent impacts and we came to rest on the d-side. I made sure my daughter was ok and we proceeded to climb out.

sorry, no pics since it was the last thing on my mind. the cage did it's job as well as the harmess' and we walked away. many spots on the rig that are bent or tweaked badly and the frame is bent quite a bit too.

I should know by next week if we can save it (is it worth whatever labor needed) and if we can't, then I'll be going to most likely a tube chassis and swap all my stuff over to that.


thanks for posting Jim. just wanted a reminder out there for everyone to please not take safety for granted. it only takes once.

I'll be in a sling for about a month letting the broken collarbone heal and I'll be lucky to wheel anytime this year. even more frustrating after being out for the last 2 years due to major surgery on my right shoulder and now one mistake and I'm for a while again (I'll be healed before we can get a rig together).

guess I'll have to shoot for the next Snofari

figured posting would clear up some questions that folks might have
Glad to hear you are ok along with your daughter. Having looked at many pics of your rig it must have been pretty wicked to taco it up. Sorry about your rig but it's just metal. Hope you heal quick.
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Old June 19th, 2014, 11:04 PM   #25
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Glad to hear you are ok along with your daughter. Having looked at many pics of your rig it must have been pretty wicked to taco it up. Sorry about your rig but it's just metal. Hope you heal quick.
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Old June 20th, 2014, 05:33 AM   #26
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Glad you are OK Steve. Now you can build a real wheeling rig.......... read: jeep.
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Old June 20th, 2014, 09:54 AM   #27
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Glad you are OK Steve. Now you can build a real wheeling rig.......... read: jeep.

now that REALLY hurts!!!

honestly, 2 ways this plays out...
1- it's savable and we rebuild it
2- I buy a tube chassis and swap everything over to it. if this happens, it will have an s10 or Silverado front clip to sport the bowtie

thanks though Jim, I appreciate it.
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Old June 20th, 2014, 09:59 AM   #28
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Glad you guys walked away.


Hope the rig survives I really liked your ride.
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Old June 20th, 2014, 10:03 AM   #29
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Hope the rig survives I really liked your ride.

thank you on both accounts. I hope it survives too, but I am ready just in case I have to step away from it.
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Old June 20th, 2014, 10:10 AM   #30
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We need pics of the rig.
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Old June 20th, 2014, 10:25 AM   #31
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Old June 20th, 2014, 12:29 PM   #32
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For those who still only have lap belts you should have harnesses or shoulder belts. There is a really good chance my father would still be alive today. He had a 73 CJ5 with only lap belts, which allowed his upper body to lean out of the jeep and take a good majority of impact in his accident and killed him instantly. A shoulder belt or harness could have saved his life. It was the worst day of my life having the police come to my door to tell me my father was dead. RIP DAD!!
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Old June 20th, 2014, 01:31 PM   #33
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it was my rig that Jim was talking about.
Dang, sorry for your luck. I was trying to figure out who's rig it could be since I saw knaffie's post on facespace the other day and then Jim's here.

Good luck getting it back on the trail.


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For those who still only have lap belts you should have harnesses or shoulder belts. There is a really good chance my father would still be alive today. He had a 73 CJ5 with only lap belts, which allowed his upper body to lean out of the jeep and take a good majority of impact in his accident and killed him instantly. A shoulder belt or harness could have saved his life. It was the worst day of my life having the police come to my door to tell me my father was dead. RIP DAD!!
Sorry to hear this. I know that I wear only my lap belt too often. I have been trying to up my use of shoulder belts, and stories like this reinforce it.
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Old June 20th, 2014, 01:46 PM   #34
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Dang, hope you two heal quickly.

Also, RIP to your Dad Harry.
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After that YJ rolled at the Pig Gig at Grandman's, my jeep went in with a month to get a full cage and harnesses/seats installed.
And you haven't wheeled since...
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Old June 20th, 2014, 02:44 PM   #36
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Dang, sorry for your luck. I was trying to figure out who's rig it could be since I saw knaffie's post on facespace the other day and then Jim's here.

Good luck getting it back on the trail.




Sorry to hear this. I know that I wear only my lap belt too often. I have been trying to up my use of shoulder belts, and stories like this reinforce it.

thank you very much and definitely, condolences go out to harry lague and your family about the accident.

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Dang, hope you two heal quickly.

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again, thanks.


little bit of bad news (was expecting it), but it sounds like the truck is not worth saving. way too many bent parts (cab, frame rails, etc....) to try and save it.

guess it's time to move on. I will be swapping almost all the parts over to a tube chassis and try to add my own personal touch so it stands out again.

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I will be swapping almost all the parts over to a tube chassis and try to add my own personal touch so it stands out again.
I'm sure it'll be very nice when you're done.
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So glad to hear you both are OK.


u sure you want to go chassis? remember how convenient it is to have a plated rig.
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So glad to hear you both are OK.


u sure you want to go chassis? remember how convenient it is to have a plated rig.
Salvage the firewall with the VIN attached and incorporate it into the tube chassis.
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Salvage the firewall with the VIN attached and incorporate it into the tube chassis.
good call!!!!



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