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Old June 15th, 2014, 01:22 PM   #1
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Default Brake / Turn signal lights

I lost all brake and turn signal lights (both front and back). All fuses look good.
Since the brakes are live (fuse block) all the time and the turn signals are key activated, the only place I think they are commonly linked are in the steering column, which is a PITA to access. 4-ways do not work either. All other electrics work including tail lights.

I don't really know when I lost them but I was at the dunes last week and put on a good 50 miles around Holland and Saugatuck and no one said anything to me. We just ran into town for ice cream and my buddy behind me told me they were out.

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Old June 15th, 2014, 03:38 PM   #2
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It sounds like the turn signal switch took a dive. What is it on?
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Old June 15th, 2014, 04:28 PM   #3
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possibly a ground issue?
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Old June 15th, 2014, 04:31 PM   #4
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Shorted/ grounded brake switch?
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Old June 15th, 2014, 07:35 PM   #5
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It sounds like the turn signal switch took a dive. What is it on?
YJ. sorry

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possibly a ground issue?
where? 2 sources of power, 4 different lights. What ground?

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Shorted/ grounded brake switch?
No blown fuses. Wouldn't a shorted switch blow a fuse?
Same question on where?
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Old June 15th, 2014, 07:44 PM   #6
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Power runs thru the hazard switch before feeding the brake light switch so I would look into the hazard switch or wiring in column the wiring diagram doesn't say where the tail light grounds r located

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That's what I was afraid of. Pulling a column apart is not fun.
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Old June 15th, 2014, 07:52 PM   #8
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Check for function at the plug at the base of the column before taking everything apart. Get your test lightand see what's got power.
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Check for function at the plug at the base of the column before taking everything apart. Get your test lightand see what's got power.
very good place to start
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Also you have two circuits, one for brake and one for turn. To have them all fail is odd. Jim you have wipers and washers in your column switch correct? If so are they working okay?
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Yes, and I don't know. Spent the afternoon enjoying family. I'll dive into it tomorrow.

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Power runs thru the hazard switch before feeding the brake light switch so I would look into the hazard switch or wiring in column the wiring diagram doesn't say where the tail light grounds r located

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Old June 15th, 2014, 08:18 PM   #12
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its in the column
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its in the column
Excellent help.
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Old June 15th, 2014, 08:44 PM   #14
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Link to schematic?
Someone posted this the other day:

http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/Wd
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Looks like it has to be the column switch. Is there a common problem/fix?
http://www.revbase.com/BBBMOTOR/Wd/DownloadPdf?id=56612
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Old June 15th, 2014, 08:58 PM   #16
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On my old green tj i had the hazzard switch go bad from water intrusion.
lost brake lights, turn signals, and hazzards. Never blew a fuse.
your yj is different, might be totally off base. Just an idea.
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I've never taken apart the guts of a steering column. Are there any specialized tools required? How did you know it was bad Joe?
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Is this on your new chrome column?
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Stock YJ tilt column.
I don't have your bucks to put bling on my rig.
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I've never taken apart the guts of a steering column. Are there any specialized tools required? How did you know it was bad Joe?
Its not that bad, you need a steering wheel puller and a steering wheel lock ring retainer removal tool. all of it is rentable at autozone.
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