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Old May 8th, 2014, 03:22 PM   #1
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Default Garage/Pole Barn Safety: Fire Extinguishers?

Now that my shop is semi-setup, I need fire extinguishers. What are you guys keeping in your garages or barns?

I have a 30x48 barn, wood structure/metal siding & roof. Its unfinished now, but will eventially get finished. I do cutting/grinding/welding in there, so there can be sparks. At the present, I do not have water run to the barn. The nearest hose at the house is about 120ft away.

I've been looking at 10 - 20 lbs extinguishers, I'm thinking I would like 2 of them. Are the CO2 ones worth the price upgrade over an ABC Dry chemical? I know the CO2 won't make a big mess.

Or should I have 1 of each? Or is there another type useful for this type of environment?

Anywhere local (to norther Oakland County) that has good prices? I'm seeing $70-$100 for a 10-20lb dry chem, and like $200-$300 for a 20lb CO2 online.

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I've had 2 fires out there in the last few months, both little and easily dealt with, but made me think that I definately need some safetly items out there.

1) Sparks hit some tissue paper packaging material, that stuff lit and burned extermely quick. Stanped it out with my foot.

2) Carb backfire ignited a paper air cleaner that had some starting fluid soaked into it. I just tossed the air filter out the door.

Don't want to count on being so lucky next time...
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I have a 10 lb ABC and 50 ft of hose always connected to the faucet.

Additionally- If I'm doing any kind of welding I fill a 5 gallon bucket at least half full of water and toss a couple rags in there. Dropping a soaked rag on whatever is burning usually puts it out pretty quickly.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 04:00 PM   #4
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About the same as SANDVIPER. I have a couple extinguishers and a bucket 1/2 full of water. I don't have water in my shop, so I use a bucket to wash up in and a wet rag works pretty good.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 06:43 PM   #5
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Hmm, I like the bucket idea, easy and effective.
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Bucket and water, and a small ABC for any oil/grease that might catch.

Looked into a sprinkler system when I moved in in 96, due to having 1600 sq ft to cover.

City would not issue a permit since it was residential, and overhead sprinklers were zoned for commercial/industrial. Then found out my insurance would not cover anything anyway if I was welding in the garage.
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My barn and house is excessive I have 5 in the barn 3 in the house 2 in the garage....only because, my father inlaw bought a room at an auction last year and it had a ton of fire extinguishers in it so he gave me a bunch of them. They are nice... not sure of the tank size, but they are big probably 30-40lbers ?? they stand about 22-24" tall. I really like the size of them.
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My barn and house is excessive I have 5 in the barn 4 in the house 2 in the garage....only because, my father inlaw bought a room at an auction last year and it had a ton of fire extinguishers in it so he gave me a bunch of them. They are nice... not sure of the tank size, but they are big probably 30-40lbers ?? they stand about 22-24" tall. I really like the size of them.
Check the inspection dates on them, from what I've heard if they are past date they may not work even if the gauge shows pressure. Contact an extinguisher company to verify.
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Check the inspection dates on them, from what I've heard if they are past date they may not work even if the gauge shows pressure. Contact an extinguisher company to verify.
Good to know... they are out of date but the gauge showed good... I should have them inspected just to make sure.
It would suck to have ten worthless extinguishers laying around when you need one...lol

maybe @hosejockey4506 can get them inspected/refilled if needed.



the bucket is a great idea also.
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I have none...I should have some but I don't.
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I have none...I should have some but I don't.
With your baller status, it would just be an excuse to buy new stuff
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A hint I got during a boater saftey inspection. Tap the extinguisher with a rubber mallet to keep the powder from compacting inside the unit.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 08:58 PM   #13
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A hint I got during a boater saftey inspection. Tap the extinguisher with a rubber mallet to keep the powder from compacting inside the unit.
I also heard this but I heard it from a fire guy. I would have at least 2 10LB ones around. I have had to use mine on a couple occasions when torching Jeeps apart kind of got out of hand.
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My .02

I like having a CO2 extinguisher and a chem extinguisher. I'll fire the chem if I have to but anyone that has ever fired one for real knows it sucks afterward. I have water and a hose right outside the door but I also have a large dish soap bottle full of water that I use to put small bushing fires and stuff like that out. Squirts right where you want it. Closes nice and fits on a shelf.
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Oh my. My favorite subject.
20 lb halon
Two 2 1/2 gal water pressure fire extinguisher (used to keep afff charged)
Plus I have a bunch of ABC of different sizes
I also keep an Indian backpack pump handy.

In my experience, I have used water pressure 10 to 1 compared to all others.
ABC is great but has no cooling or penetration, makes a great mess and tastes like shit.

If you are prone to starting fires or blowing shit up water is cheap and plentiful and extremely effective 99% of the time.

Extinguishers should be at the exits and no one should have to travel more than fifty feet to access a fire extinguisher.
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Indian backpack pump
Are you even allowed to say that anymore? LOL
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Are you even allowed to say that anymore? LOL
Actually we called them piss pumps. It was like pissing on the fire.
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These are handy and cheap and will put out most small fires.

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I have three 3lb ABC and two 8lb ABC in the house. Another 3lb ABC in the back porch. Two 8lb ABC in the detached garage. One 3lb ABC in the basement garage.

I keep a 5 gallon bucket of water about half full in the detached garage. I use it for cooling when grinding parts but it's also good for putting out fires. In the winter time I keep windshield washer fluid in it to keep it from freezing.

I've never had to use an extinguisher on my own stuff but I have used the bucket of water a bunch of times. I do not recommend welding in nylon shorts, even if it is "just for a minute". haha.

Make the bottom 2' of a pole building steel or aluminum. Way cheaper than a new building.
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