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Old May 4th, 2014, 11:31 AM   #81
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A few thoughts from someone who has experienced tents, pop ups, hybrids and hard sides:

Tents and pop ups both have the most set up work to be done, are both most vulnerable to the elements as far as feeling the heat, cold, humidity, and tent equipment means that you have to pack and unpack every single camping item at the beginning and end of every trip. And speaking of the elements, ever try to set up, or tear down, a tent, pop up, (or hybrid as well) in the rain? Not a lot of fun putting a tent up, or raising a pop up top and the fold outs on the pop up or hybrid ends in a rainstorm, and even worse when packing up, since when you get home when the rain is done you have to open everything up again so it can all dry out, then close it all up again. Look at the picture in the post above this one- imagine trying to set up or pack all of that up in the pouring rain?
The one nice advantage to a pop up or hybrid is that on nice weather days you can open up all the flaps on the fold outs and get a lot of nice air movement through the units. That's the only thing I miss about those types of campers.
My vote after having been though them all is with a hardside. There are some really lightweight ones out there theses days, so fuel mileage is less of an issue. One of the great aspects of them is set up and tear down in rainy weather is less of a pain in the ass. No wet fold outs to fold up, and no top to crank down and latch. If you think it's going to be storming when you pack up in the morning, you can hook up to your truck the night before, crank up your stabilizers, and in the morning just unplug your power cord and drive away. Another big advantage is that you can keep pretty much all of your gear loaded in it all the time, so you are just about ready to hit the road for a camping trip at all times. And when the trip is over, minimal unpacking as well. The only major drawback can be storage of the unit itself. Most will not be as lucky as I am to be able to keep my rig at the house all the time.

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I had a Hi-Lo camper years ago, flip a switch and it powered up into position in about a minute.

But it was heavy, I understand newer ones are lighter. I don't remember how hard the gas mileage was hit, didn't worry about it back then. I do know that when we towed it once with an Aerostar it was an adventure!
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Another plus for you with one like Tim's, you can drill the roof and put Yakima style rack bars on it... or any bars really. This should get you out of the problem of putting multiple bikes off of your hitch style bike rack.
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And if you get a nice one, then you have all the comforts.



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Old May 4th, 2014, 12:12 PM   #84
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Oh, forgot, I started with a manual crank, then switched to a drill but then put an electric crank on it. One button up and down. Popped up in about 30 seconds.
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Look at the picture in the post above this one- imagine trying to set up or pack all of that up in the pouring rain?
Did it. While not super fun, didn't take any longer then in the sun. Just put my rain gear on to do it.

As for having to bring it home and set it up to let it dry, we did that anyway, even if it was dry. We would get it home, pop it up in the driveway so we could clean it out from the camping trip, unpack and wash it on the outside and remove any pine sap or other stuff. So setting it up in the driveway wasn't a big deal for us. Popping it up to clean it took less than 5 minutes if you weren't setting everything up to live in it.
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If I was going to get a towable pop up again, I would opt for a model with the front storage like the pic above but with the smaller bed over the tongue of the trailer. You could not set up this one with it hooked up to the truck which made things like wally-docking a bigger pain.
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I had a Hi-Lo camper years ago, flip a switch and it powered up into position in about a minute.

But it was heavy, I understand newer ones are lighter. I don't remember how hard the gas mileage was hit, didn't worry about it back then. I do know that when we towed it once with an Aerostar it was an adventure!

I mentioned this option on first page.
I've camped in almost everything.
Tent, pickup camper, travel trailer and motor homes. Back seat of CC pick-up, back of pick-up with shell.
I current have sleep in my KK and a tent I used once over night.
I'd like a cargo trailer with some sort of
camper conversion. Or a pop up. Tent camping more than a night or 2 is to hard on me.
I don't remember ever camping in the tow lite, it was my mom's. I do remember all the repairs I made and times I had it back to dealer for repairs.
It wasn't set up for dirt roads, the cable system would seize and then pump motor solenoid would burn up. Once I had it all figured out and dealer learned the tricks. Warranty was over. Funny thing after the warranty was out with my solenoid , cable pulley fix it never failed again. She traded it in for a class B motor home. Saw it one time and told her to take it back and get the exhaust manifold fixed!
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I mentioned this option on first page.
I've camped in almost everything.
Tent, pickup camper, travel trailer and motor homes. Back seat of CC pick-up, back of pick-up with shell.
I current have sleep in my KK and a tent I used once over night.
I'd like a cargo trailer with some sort of
camper conversion. Or a pop up. Tent camping more than a night or 2 is to hard on me.
I don't remember ever camping in the tow lite, it was my mom's. I do remember all the repairs I made and times I had it back to dealer for repairs.
It wasn't set up for dirt roads, the cable system would seize and then pump motor solenoid would burn up. Once I had it all figured out and dealer learned the tricks. Warranty was over. Funny thing after the warranty was out with my solenoid , cable pulley fix it never failed again. She traded it in for a class B motor home. Saw it one time and told her to take it back and get the exhaust manifold fixed!
The one I had was from the early 70's, had a winch/cable setup to raise and lower that was seriously underpowered. Basically a motor with a small gear box, and a shaft that ran down the center that the cables attached to.
Since we never stayed anywhere that did not have power, I swapped the tiny 12v motor out for a 3/4hp 110v motor and upsized all the cables. Never had a problem after that until it just started getting so old that I got sick of chasing leaks.

Sold it to a neighbor who put it on his property as a hunting cabin, he still uses it after 15 years.
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I would buy a dirt bike. You can ride them in michigan, they are cheaper and more useful than peddle bikes, or at least the ones you buy. You wouldn't have to buy a pop up or camp...win, win. Unless you can't ride a dirt bike.
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I would buy a dirt bike. You can ride them in michigan, they are cheaper and more useful than peddle bikes, or at least the ones you buy. You wouldn't have to buy a pop up or camp...win, win. Unless you can't ride a dirt bike.
Mommy won't let him ride big boy bikes yet.
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I would buy a dirt bike. You can ride them in michigan, they are cheaper and more useful than peddle bikes, or at least the ones you buy. You wouldn't have to buy a pop up or camp...win, win. Unless you can't ride a dirt bike.
I've owned dirtbikes, I'll get another when I am too out of shape to pedal a bike.
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Oh I'm in shape, in fact I love looking at myself with my shirt off
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I understand your jealousy since you can't keep up on a pedal bike and if I rode a motorbike I'd be faster than you are. But I still don't want a dirtbike.
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I understand your jealousy since you can't keep up on a pedal bike and if I rode a motorbike I'd be faster than you are. But I still don't want a dirtbike.
Cartman would beat you on a dirtbike
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It's true, that creep can ride, man.
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It's true, that creep can ride, man.
I believe he can ride.
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I usually open my pop-up in the garage for cleaning/unloading/drying
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I wonder if this would cut the air better behind a pickup truck than on top ? (found somewhere online)

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I would buy a dirt bike. You can ride them in michigan, they are cheaper and more useful than peddle bikes, or at least the ones you buy. You wouldn't have to buy a pop up or camp...win, win. Unless you can't ride a dirt bike.
This is also a good plan. I cannot wait to get another dirty. Until then I will have to ride my pedally.
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