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Old May 3rd, 2014, 11:37 AM   #61
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Also, like you mentioned, many of the other racers camp, so that's a part of why we'd like to camp. A lot of the locations that offer free camping in the parking lots also offer access to the pool/hot tubs and showers for racers, so that's not typically a major problem. But things to consider.
that was the most fun portion of our racing... It made camping in old pastures without a single tree in the middle of the summer worth it.
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Old May 3rd, 2014, 01:02 PM   #62
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But dont fool yourself into thinking it will be cheaper or easier than a hotel. It wont be. Hot/muggy/buggy/cold/rainy/sleety trips will suck. You will wish you were in a hotel with a nice shower and hottub the night after a race.
Yes it will be.
Cheaper;
Granted there is the up front purchase price. For the most part, maintenance is low dollar. Unless you are going to fancy RV only parks, camping prices range from free to $40 per night. With the camper, you are much more likely to cook your meals in camp, mimicking food costs at home versus being more likely to eat out for 2 of the 3 meals per day.

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I travel a fair amount for work and I hate dragging shit in and out of hotels, and being limited to a small amount of clothes due the inconvenience of large luggage bags. With all your supplies within 10 steps of your truck & pop up, you stay consolidated and have more storage options. I have seen many people who tents use large stack-able totes in addition to large duffle bags.

I hate sitting in a hotel room in the evening. It is far nicer to sit at your own campsite, regardless of whether it is a tent, popup or full size RV. If it is shitty weather, his popup will still be more pleasant to relax in than a hotel room. Most campgrounds have decent showers, so that is a moot point. In a hotel room, the kids want to watch TV. At a campsite, you can engage your kids in games and conversation. Plus, it's hard to roast a marshmallow in a hotel room.
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We used the shit out of our pop up. But it had 2 queen beds with heated mattresses, bathroom, shower and a slide out. It was huge.

I would much rather be in one of these instead of a tent. Not including the screen room, I could set the thing up myself in under 15 minutes. Way less if the wife was helping.

I have a pop-up much like this one and had to replace the canvas on it after mice destroyed it the first winter we owned it. It was around $1200 for both bunk ends and the sides. Tinted windows was a free upgrade and the canvas is nicer than the factory Coleman stuff which made the cost a little easier to accept.

We like it and it tows pretty easy. It is pretty big for a pop-up and weighs around 2500lbs empty with a 3500lb GVW I think. It is fully equipped with shower/crapper, sink, indoor/outdoor stove, heater AC and a fridge with Queen beds on each end. I used a 4.0 powered WJ to pull it the first year and it dropped the mileage from 20ish mpg to 14ish mpg running 65-70 on the freeway. I pulled it with my 4.0 powered Grand Wagoneer and it dropped from 15mpg to 12mpg. It sets up easy and goes down almost as easy, about 15 min each way.

You said you don't need all the luxuries so a smaller and much lighter one will be a lot easier on the fuel mileage and the bank account.
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i know where there is a resonably priced one
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We shopped around before buying ours - the Jeep is usually full of kid, dogs and crap for the wife, the front platform works great for transporting all of our other stuff.

http://www.rvguide.com/specs/starcra...8/rt/13rt.html

We stack ours up with Rubbermaid totes, cooler, bikes, etc. Much better than a tent, I am set up and ready to drink a beer inside of 30 minutes. Nice to have heat, a sink and a toilet when nature calls at 3am.

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We shopped around before buying ours - the Jeep is usually full of kid, dogs and crap for the wife, the front platform works great for transporting all of our other stuff.

http://www.rvguide.com/specs/starcra...8/rt/13rt.html

We stack ours up with Rubbermaid totes, cooler, bikes, etc. Much better than a tent, I am set up and ready to drink a beer inside of 30 minutes. Nice to have heat, a sink and a toilet when nature calls at 3am.

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I'm not interested in anything quite that nice, but I was under the impression I could park the pop up, start cranking cranks and extending poles and be done in a matter of minutes, especially on the smaller ones....

Either way, those of you that are pop up owners / regular users are swaying me in the direction of continuing my search.

Ideally we'd like to be in the $1500 range at max, like I said we're not looking for luxury, just something a bit better than a tent for 4-6 people to sleep in and get out of the weather.
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I'm not interested in anything quite that nice, but I was under the impression I could park the pop up, start cranking cranks and extending poles and be done in a matter of minutes, especially on the smaller ones....

Either way, those of you that are pop up owners / regular users are swaying me in the direction of continuing my search.

Ideally we'd like to be in the $1500 range at max, like I said we're not looking for luxury, just something a bit better than a tent for 4-6 people to sleep in and get out of the weather.
This looks like it would be ideal for your requirements, and in your budget as well.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/rvs/4452806944.html
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I'm not interested in anything quite that nice, but I was under the impression I could park the pop up, start cranking cranks and extending poles and be done in a matter of minutes, especially on the smaller ones....

Either way, those of you that are pop up owners / regular users are swaying me in the direction of continuing my search.

Ideally we'd like to be in the $1500 range at max, like I said we're not looking for luxury, just something a bit better than a tent for 4-6 people to sleep in and get out of the weather.
It's more simple than some of these guys would lead you to believe. 6 poles and a crank is all there is in mine. I gotta imagine newer ones are simpler yet.
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Drop the stabilizers, pop the latches, crank the top up, pull out the beds, put the bed supports down, drop the door in place, prop up the bunk canvas and the rest is just making yourself more comfortable.
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I am camping in my creeper van right this very instant. I love this thing. Extended Express Van ftw!
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The last popup I had was an 80s manual lift model (no crank roof). Bought for 500 and sold for 700 with great canvas. It didn't have any heat or fridge or brakes or anything, still way better than a tent when the family is involved.

He'll snag this for $1k and try it out. If you don't like it sell it for the same price
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/rvs/4453121083.html

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The last popup I had was an 80s manual lift model (no crank roof). Bought for 500 and sold for 700 with great canvas. It didn't have any heat or fridge or brakes or anything, still way better than a tent when the family is involved.

He'll snag this for $1k and try it out. If you don't like it sell it for the same price
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/rvs/4453121083.html

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That would do the trick right there, sent him a message, thanks.

If the budget allowed I think a motorhome would be the way to go, but with the amount of miles we'd be putting on it the fuel would kill me. It would be convenient as hell though.

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I am camping in my creeper van right this very instant. I love this thing. Extended Express Van ftw!
I've thought about that many a times. I think if I wasn't going to be sharing the space with more than just my wife and I, I would be pushing harder for this option.
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That would do the trick right there, sent him a message, thanks.

If the budget allowed I think a motorhome would be the way to go, but with the amount of miles we'd be putting on it the fuel would kill me. It would be convenient as hell though.
Should have jumped on the one I posted, it was newer, nicer, and cheaper.

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I have a 1992 Mallard 8x8x24 camper. No slideouts, heavy as can be (like 5.5k).

It's like staying in a dorm room. Which is roughly 700x better than a popup and 10,000x better than a tent.

It's quiet in the camper. It's warm in the camper. It's cool in the camper. I don't have to load anything in or out of the camper (except clothing). The camper is entirely self-contained (I even have a folding picnic table) with all of the modern amenities of a dorm room. I don't have that much into the camper (about what a 20 year old mediocre popup with a shitter costs) so I'm learning what I'd like to have. I want a queen bed (it has a full now) and I want one slideout so the couch that turns into a bed doesn't come into the room as far when it's a bed. The camper was expensive when new, everywhere there isn't a cabinet there is a window, some are even extremely large. Which is great, except there aren't a lot of options for mounting stuff on the walls. Nothing beats a travel trailer when it's raining.

A modern camper similar to mine but with a slideout weighs about 1500lbs less. That would help a lot with regard to fuel economy. But, I don't have to worry about mine falling apart when boondocking. And when it gets destroyed I won't be out $10k.

I've done popups and truck campers and will never again. If I had a shitbox to tow with I'd get a smaller travel trailer or a "hi-lo" travel trailer (hardsided camper that the top raises).
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Pop ups are awesome. We switched from tents and wouldn't think of going back. We may consider going to a hard sided camper some day but not any time soon.

My pop up is set up in a half hour including the screen porch. I've never seen anyone on a tent half as comfortable as we are in the camper and that includes my friends that are Mr Macho types. Even if the guys pretend to be perfectly happy, the wives and kids always end up in our camper and we have one of the smallest ones.

My wife's Freestyle loses about a half mile per gallon towing and we tow between 75 and 85mph on the highway depending on the stretch. My truck doesn't recognize any change in mpg according to the programmer.

We use the screen porch almost every trip. It's a pain to set up but we keep our food, kids toys, plates n and cooking stuff in totes out there so we have plenty of room inside. The totes keep coons and bugs out nicely.
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I'm not interested in anything quite that nice, but I was under the impression I could park the pop up, start cranking cranks and extending poles and be done in a matter of minutes, especially on the smaller ones....
You can. Anyone that says you can't, hasn't had one or is challenged.
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We used the shit out of our pop up. But it had 2 queen beds with heated mattresses, bathroom, shower and a slide out. It was huge.

I would much rather be in one of these instead of a tent. Not including the screen room, I could set the thing up myself in under 15 minutes. Way less if the wife was helping.

Another plus for you with one like Tim's, you can drill the roof and put Yakima style rack bars on it... or any bars really. This should get you out of the problem of putting multiple bikes off of your hitch style bike rack.
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