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Old August 29th, 2014, 10:21 AM   #1
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We should cut the president some slack theses days. Even though there are huge problems with Ferguson, Israel/Hamas, Russia/Ukraine and ISIS, he has been very busy this month. Here's some of the things he's had to deal with:
On July 31st and heading into August, President Obama hosted Katy Perry for a reception for the Special Olympics.
On August 2nd, President Obama went golfing and spent the next couple days at Camp David.
On August 9th, President Obama started his vacation on Martha’s Vineyard, which is a playground for the 1%ers, and immediately hit the golf course just two days after ordering airstrikes on Iraq.
He spent most of August 10th golfing as well.
On August 11th, President Obama hit the beach and held a fundraiser for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
On August 12th, President Obama went golfing and went out to dinner.
On August 13th, President Obama went to a birthday party for Vernon Jordan, a Washington, D.C., insider.
On August 14th, while Ferguson was rioting, President Obama went golfing.
On August 15th, President Obama hit the bike path and then went back golfing.
On August 16th, President Obama hit the beach.
On August 17th, President Obama returned to Washington for two days.
On August 18th, he attended a five-hour dinner with Sam Kass, a White House chef and adviser, in his home.
He then returned to Martha’s Vineyard on August 19th.
On August 20th, after the beheading of James Foley by ISIS, President Obama held a press conference and, 20 minutes later, went golfing. In contrast, British Prime Minister David Cameron ended his vacation early and returned to London.
On August 21st, President Obama went golfing again.
On August 22nd, President Obama went hiking and took in a fireworks display.
On August 23rd, President Obama went golfing before leaving Martha’s Vineyard on August 24th.
This weekend, President Obama will be attending the wedding of MSNBC host Alex Wagner and Sam Kass on Saturday. On Friday, he’ll be attending a fundraiser and then another one in New York. Then President Obama will be heading to Newport, Rhode Island, for another fundraiser for Democrats.
So let's cut the guy some slack, eh? He's got a lot on his plate these days.
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Old August 29th, 2014, 10:28 AM   #2
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I don't have the time to do the research but I think you will find that he hasn't done any more vacationing than previous presidents.

LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR........ I CAN'T STAND OBAMA. However, I also believe that ANY Commander in Chief deserves downtime, relaxation and exercise. I've been in intense business meetings that lasted 2 hours and I was exhausted for the rest of the day.

The dates you are listing indicate some exercise a week apart and also a week of vacation.

Not a big deal in my book.
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Stop bringing logic and reasoning to the table. There's no time for that.
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I don't have the time to do the research but I think you will find that he hasn't done any more vacationing than previous presidents.

LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR........ I CAN'T STAND OBAMA. However, I also believe that ANY Commander in Chief deserves downtime, relaxation and exercise. I've been in intense business meetings that lasted 2 hours and I was exhausted for the rest of the day.

The dates you are listing indicate some exercise a week apart and also a week of vacation.

Not a big deal in my book.
Down time??? BULLSHIT, he needs to be held at a higher standard, he wanted the job and the people gave it to him. The office holds no secrets, so with that being said if they are not able to handle the pressure or the hours they they shouldn't be there to begin with. Fuck his down time, fuck his vacation, and fukc him
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Down time??? BULLSHIT, he needs to be held at a higher standard, he wanted the job and the people gave it to him. The office holds no secrets, so with that being said if they are not able to handle the pressure or the hours they they shouldn't be there to begin with. Fuck his down time, fuck his vacation, and fukc him
Name ONE president who never had any down time..... ever. I agree that he should be held to a higher standard. What standard is it that he should be held to?

Are you suggesting that our president should not keep in shape over the course of several years? Are you suggesting that he should never exercise, clear his mind or get some fresh air?
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It's pretty obvious Oboingo is only phoning it in these days. A president should be a leader and a roll model to those he governs. It seems like Obamas only interest in the presidency is for the perks.
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Name ONE president who never had any down time..... ever. I agree that he should be held to a higher standard. What standard is it that he should be held to?

Are you suggesting that our president should not keep in shape over the course of several years? Are you suggesting that he should never exercise, clear his mind or get some fresh air?
No I am not, but that shitbags down time is in excess. His vacations are of poor timing, and yes he needs to work around the country's schedule, not the other way around. Obummer is to the presidents as kawme is to mayors. Him and his fuckstain supporters/staff are robbing people blind. Just like kawme did....
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From what I have read he is on par with a lot of presidents vacation time. I know Bush took a lot but he mostly went down to his ranch. I don't see why the president has to be in Washington to do most of his duties. Communications are sufficient to the point that he doesn't be there.

That being said, to me, I see Obama put his vacations in front of pressing issues. It's unbelievable how he has checked out. Maybe its best that he's checked out as he isn't pushing his agenda. My fear is when he checks back in he will have executive orders on amnesty as his first order of business.
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Its nice to see everybody can research from liberal rags posted on the internet.............(which none that I have skimmed through are posting a source, mostly just opinion)...........come on Obama's not doing his job, we all know it, and good riddin's cant come soon enough.
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Damn Reagan was no better......Laid around for days after Hinckley winged him
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I'm sure most presidents only dream of taking the type of "fun in the sun" vacations most people think they do. It's not a job like most of ours that we can forget about after we leave work.
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Down time??? BULLSHIT, he needs to be held at a higher standard, he wanted the job and the people gave it to him. The office holds no secrets, so with that being said if they are not able to handle the pressure or the hours they they shouldn't be there to begin with. Fuck his down time, fuck his vacation, and fukc him
This. I lead a company..... a small one. I haven't had a vacation more than two, two and a half days this YEAR. This fucko is supposedly leading a country and vacations more to date-(this year) than most small business owners do in five(years). On our dime, at that. I would say he needs to have his over-paid ass in that oval office every damn day(mon-fri) from now until January 2017.
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This. I lead a company..... a small one. I haven't had a vacation more than two, two and a half days this YEAR. This fucko is supposedly leading a country and vacations more to date-(this year) than most small business owners do in five(years). On our dime, at that. I would say he needs to have his over-paid ass in that oval office every damn day(mon-fri) from now until January 2017.
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I'm sure most presidents only dream of taking the type of "fun in the sun" vacations most people think they do. It's not a job like most of ours that we can forget about after we leave work.
Cry me a river..again they knew what is was they were getting into...people shouldn't be allowed to run for office and campaign, you should be nominated by the people for the people, not nominated by a defunct political party, but the people have their heads so far up their collective asses it would never work. It just amazes me anyone could call themselves a democrat or a republican
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Cry me a river..again they knew what is was they were getting into...people shouldn't be allowed to run for office and campaign, you should be nominated by the people for the people, not nominated by a defunct political party, but the people have their heads so far up their collective asses it would never work. It just amazes me anyone could call themselves a democrat or a republican
I 'm not suggesting that you should have any sympathy. Just pointing out that being President is not like being a cop or a designer where we can go away on vacation and completely forget out our job. The President is still president, and carries that responsibility where ever he goes, 24/7.

I agree that our primary and nomination process is a stupid mess.
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Obama is running Charlie Mansons "Helter Skelter" and it's working.
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Q: Is it true that George W. Bush took more vacation days than Barack Obama?

A: Yes. Before his two-week trip to Martha's Vineyard in August, Obama's count was 125 full or partial days and Bush's total at the same point in his presidency was 407.

Our inbox is chock full of questions about who took more vacation days, Obama or Bush. (The short answer: Bush. The long answer: There's no such thing as a true non-working vacation for the president.)

The recent barrage from our readers coincides with Obama's 15-day family vacation on Martha's Vineyard — he returned to the White House on Aug. 24 – which occurred during major news events including the beheading of a U.S. journalist by Islamic militants and protests in Ferguson, Mo., after a police officer shot and killed an unarmed 18-year-old black man. The vacation also occurred during the funeral of Maj. Gen. Harold J. Greene, the only general officer killed in Afghanistan.

Obama faced criticism for being on vacation during these times, but those types of complaints are nothing new — either to Obama or presidents in general.

Readers may recall the criticism directed at Bush for the August weeks spent at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. Others may remember Democrats chastising Dwight Eisenhower for spending time on the golf course.

We last dealt with the who-took-more-vacation question in January 2010, at which point Obama had spent 26 days on "vacation" during his first year in office, fewer than the first-year totals for George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush or Ronald Reagan. Our numbers are all courtesy of CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, who has covered every president since Gerald Ford and tracks the commander in chief's travel.

But, as we noted then, presidents never fully escape from the job. Knoller told us he doesn't consider these days away from the White House real "vacation" days. He said then in an e-mail: "I have long held the view that a US president is never really on vacation. The job — and its awesome powers and responsibilities — is his wherever he is and whatever he's doing."


George W. Bush carries his dog Barney into his pickup truck before driving back to his ranch house after meeting the press in Crawford, Texas, on Aug. 13, 2003.(Photo: Gerald Herbert, AP)
Bush officials called the Crawford ranch the "Western White House" to emphasize the days there involved plenty of official business, and Obama's recent Martha's Vineyard break included several presidential statements and two days spent back at the White House in the middle of the "vacation." Presidents may clear brush or hit the links, but they are never actually off the clock.

Still, much is made of these presidential vacation days — and how to count them. Knoller doesn't include visits to Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland often used to host foreign leaders. On Aug. 8, the day before Obama left for Martha's Vineyard, Knoller tweeted that Obama had spent 125 full or partial days on vacation, and at the same point in Bush's presidency, he had spent 381 days at his Texas ranch plus 26 days at his parents' home in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a total of 407.

When we e-mailed Knoller on Aug. 26, Obama was up to 140 days by his count. Bush's total for his two terms in office is 533 days, which includes 490 at the ranch and the rest at Kennebunkport. For comparison's sake, Bill Clinton's total is 174 days, and Reagan hit 390 (349 at his ranch and 41 in Palm Springs), according to Knoller.

Adding in Camp David visits would bring Obama's total to date to 223 (that's 83 days at Camp David) and Bush's total for his entire time in office to 1,024 (491 days at the presidential retreat). Note that Obama still has more than two years in office to narrow the gap.

Deciding how to count these "vacation" days can create some confusion. CNN recently listed a count of 879 days for Bush and 150 for Obama, numbers that came from a Washington Post "Outlook" piece on "Five myths on presidential vacations." (Myth No. 1: "Presidents get vacations.") The 879 figure, it turns out, is from March 3, 2008, at which point Bush had spent that many days at the ranch and Camp David (but it doesn't include days in Kennebunkport). The numbers are in a 2008 Washington Post piece and attributed to Knoller.

If readers want to make an apples-to-apples comparison, the best solution is to use Knoller's figures as of Aug. 8, cited above: Bush, 407; Obama, 125. But the numbers say more about how many days the presidents spent away from the White House than they do about how much time the presidents spent not working.
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