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Old November 15th, 2006, 09:48 PM   #1
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Default DRW D60/70 & 14B questions

So I am building a set of axles for my MJ, leaving the stock drivetrain in it for the time being. I've got a DRW 60/70 combo from a late 80's Ford and a SRW FF14B. I'm planning on running 5.38 gears in these to turn my 39.5 boggers.

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D70 vs 14b - I have had the 14b for awhile and have been planning on using it, but this 70 has complicated my choice of rear axle. Hey, you just can't pass up a screamin' deal on big axles. Plan on running a mini-spool in the rear axle, pros and cons of each?

Question 2:

I haven't dealt with DRW axles much, what is involved in getting the axle back to 'stock' width (67.5" or so).

Sorry for the newb. questions, pirate's search function seems to have disappeared, I can't get the faq thing to work.

If anyone sees holes in my plan, let me know.

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Old November 15th, 2006, 11:03 PM   #2
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the 14b and d70 are very closet to each other. IIRC, both are full float, 35 spline monsters, which will probably not break with 39.5's. i'd say you have to make your choice based on the difference in width from the SRW to DRW. Both will be strong enough in stock form, and a minispool in both is almost the same because IIRC they both have 2 piece carriers. I know teh 14 bolt is 2 piece, and that detroit and powertrax lockers are lunchbox styles. I have a detroit in the 14bFF of my 1995 Chevy DD/Tow rig and it is the beefiest mofuggin lunchbox lockers I have ever seen.

about question 2, I am pretty sure the entire axle on a DRW is narrower, not just the hub differences or anything, but I might be wrong. Not 100% sure though.

Hope this helps, and good luck
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Old November 15th, 2006, 11:03 PM   #3
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also, to search on pirate, you need to buy a red star.
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Old November 15th, 2006, 11:10 PM   #4
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They both have 1 1/2" diameter axleshafts, but the 14 bolt is 30 spline, D70 is 35 spline. You will have to try fairly hard to break either. Ground clearance is less with the 14 bolt, but IMO, it is a little stronger. The Detroit fits in the carrier of either, but it isn't a lunchbox locker by any means.

If it were me, I would grind the 14 bolt for clearance, and sell the DRW D70 The front D60 can be easily and cheaply changed to SRW hubs.
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Old November 15th, 2006, 11:27 PM   #5
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They both have 1 1/2" diameter axleshafts, but the 14 bolt is 30 spline, D70 is 35 spline. You will have to try fairly hard to break either. Ground clearance is less with the 14 bolt, but IMO, it is a little stronger. The Detroit fits in the carrier of either, but it isn't a lunchbox locker by any means.

If it were me, I would grind the 14 bolt for clearance, and sell the DRW D70 The front D60 can be easily and cheaply changed to SRW hubs.
That is what lunchbox means...when the locker goes inside the carrier...it's just one of the beefiest lunchboxes on the entire planet.
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Nope, the Detroit isn't considered a lunchbox- the term came out as a derogatory term for the LockRight, while the Detroit had been available for those rears for years.

Compare a Lock Right to a Detroit for a 14 bolt, and you will see thare is no comparison between the two.
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Nope, the Detroit isn't considered a lunchbox- the term came out as a derogatory term for the LockRight, while the Detroit had been available for those rears for years.

Compare a Lock Right to a Detroit for a 14 bolt, and you will see thare is no comparison between the two.
I know this. I talked to Randys for awhile about it when I ordered mine. The detroit does not re-use any side gears, or thrust washers...i can't remember which, while the LockRight does. The detroit is all one bundle, but the LockRight has parts re-used out of the diff. That is the differenece, but in terms of the general lunchbox term, it is one...because again, it doesn't replace the carrier
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Thanks for the info - good to know about the red star. I'll have to pony up for one of those.

That's about what I was thinking - the drw-srw difference will make the decision. What exactly is involved in making that front D60 SRW width?

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also, to search on pirate, you need to buy a red star.
or the crappier search but free way of google.

detroit locker site:pirate4x4.com

then it just searches that domain
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Thanks for the info - good to know about the red star. I'll have to pony up for one of those.

That's about what I was thinking - the drw-srw difference will make the decision. What exactly is involved in making that front D60 SRW width?

Thanks again.
all the hub/brake components from a SRW onto the DRW is all that is needed, as far as i know. a guy here in our local 4x4 club runs a DRW front 60 with hummer double beadlocks so its not so wide.
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Old November 16th, 2006, 03:34 PM   #11
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You should only need the srw hubs. I would measure the width of the 70 and 14 bolt and see what one is closer to the front which will be 69" wide.
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He said it was a DRW Ford D60 front. This is the same axle I have. You can unbolt the DRW parts from Ford D60's.


Personally, I'd run the D70 and shave it as well. They are a lot smoother underneath from the start, also.
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IIRC it should be a 70u which has a smooth bottom and the same ground clerance as a 60. I forgot he said Ford.
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