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Old April 3rd, 2014, 09:33 PM   #21
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I don't have a rubicon, mines just a 2000 sport, but I'd meet you any time any where to go wheeling. I love toyotas, but use a bit of logic here. The jeep has much better front and rear approach and departure angle, a much better break over angle, probably a much better power to weight ratio, dual lockers combined with the better articulation, much better gearing, much better Offroad visibility, ect, ect.
They don't come with lockers stock, neither does mine, but mine does use the braking Shit for "pseudo lockers" that actually isn't to bad really. Jeeps have it on the departure for sure, but I can seat 5 comfortably, and haul gear. As for power, I have a 300 horse V8 that smokes most on the road. Also, I can actually tow up to 7k lbs, vs your... 1k maybe? And a stock jeep does NOT have good articulation! Lmfao.

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Old April 3rd, 2014, 09:35 PM   #22
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They don't come with lockers stock, neither does mine, but mine does use the braking Shit for "pseudo lockers" that actually isn't to bad really. Jeeps have it on the departure for sure, but I can seat 5 comfortably, and haul gear. As for power, I have a 300 horse V8 that smokes most on the road. Also, I can actually tow up to 7k lbs, vs your... 1k maybe? And a stock jeep does NOT have good articulation! Lmfao.

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Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Oh and rubicons do come with lockers stock, as well as a 4 to 1 tcase. Who gives a fukc what it can tow or how many hippies you can fit in it? We are talking Offroad ability, not how much groceries you fit in that mini van of yours.
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Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Oh and rubicons do come with lockers stock, as well as a 4 to 1 tcase. Who gives a fukc what it can tow or how many hippies you can fit in it? We are talking Offroad ability, not how much groceries you fit in that mini van of yours.
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Old April 3rd, 2014, 09:58 PM   #24
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I can't believe someone could think a Rubicon with 4 inch lift is less capable then a stock 4 runner....are we talking RC cars, or real cars? lol

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Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Oh and rubicons do come with lockers stock, as well as a 4 to 1 tcase. Who gives a fukc what it can tow or how many hippies you can fit in it? We are talking Offroad ability, not how much groceries you fit in that mini van of yours.
as well as rubicons having electronic sway bar disconnect, softer springs/shocks for articulation, and Dana 44s, BFG MTs, Rock rails...A V6 with 285hp, and 3500lb towing capacity.

I have towed 5000lb Tige RZR almost 2k miles last summer with our rubicon....yes it was over the limit.
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They don't come with lockers stock, neither does mine, but mine does use the braking Shit for "pseudo lockers" that actually isn't to bad really. Jeeps have it on the departure for sure, but I can seat 5 comfortably, and haul gear. As for power, I have a 300 horse V8 that smokes most on the road. Also, I can actually tow up to 7k lbs, vs your... 1k maybe? And a stock jeep does NOT have good articulation! Lmfao.

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Im not sure which year your 4Runner is but the 2014s only come in a V6 with 270hp, and a 4700lb towing capacity. Im glad you enjoy your 4runner, they are nice vehicles
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Said the guy with another jeep build... In all seriousness your jeep us so far from stock, you can't even remember how much of a pos it was. Hell I can't even get in those tin cans, I'm to tall. Under powered shopping cart. Lol. I'll stick with my 4Runner.
Know any good trails between Petoskey and Traverse city area? I'll come wheel. Most places I knew are closed now.

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Ok, my Jeep is stock with open diffs and a 3.5 inch lift. I'd like to see what your pretty 4 Runner can do that mine can't. I'd go as far as Rocks and Valleys to find out.
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I have only ever pulled two things out of the mud with my current ruck (that I've owned almost five years) which I would call a Grandpa Grocery Getter. One was a fourth-generation 4skinrunner and the rest were my garden tractors. I'd say the Toyota 4Runner ranks up there with my garden tractors in offroad ability.

And they never made a 300hp 4Runner. It has the same hp/weight ratio as a Prius, its closest relation.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 05:22 AM   #32
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They don't come with lockers stock, neither does mine, but mine does use the braking Shit for "pseudo lockers" that actually isn't to bad really. Jeeps have it on the departure for sure, but I can seat 5 comfortably, and haul gear. As for power, I have a 300 horse V8 that smokes most on the road. Also, I can actually tow up to 7k lbs, vs your... 1k maybe? And a stock jeep does NOT have good articulation! Lmfao.

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the real question should be how many dunes flags and pencil sharpeners are mounted and where?
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the real question should be how many dunes flags and pencil sharpeners are mounted and where?
This. Also, are the pencil sharpeners electric or belt driven?

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Said the guy with another jeep build... In all seriousness your jeep us so far from stock, you can't even remember how much of a pos it was. Hell I can't even get in those tin cans, I'm to tall. Under powered shopping cart. Lol. I'll stick with my 4Runner.
Know any good trails between Petoskey and Traverse city area? I'll come wheel. Most places I knew are closed now.

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The only thing not "jeep" on my rig is the front and rear axle.

It was a pos when I started but still probably more capable than a 4runner
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They don't come with lockers stock, neither does mine, but mine does use the braking Shit for "pseudo lockers" that actually isn't to bad really. Jeeps have it on the departure for sure, but I can seat 5 comfortably, and haul gear. As for power, I have a 300 horse V8 that smokes most on the road. Also, I can actually tow up to 7k lbs, vs your... 1k maybe? And a stock jeep does NOT have good articulation! Lmfao.

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Did you just call traction control "pseudo lockers"?
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