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Old March 17th, 2014, 06:26 PM   #1
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Looking to get my race engine built. I have a running sbc 350 and am looking for some specific work to be done on it. Lets hear who you have used. Northern Michigan/Upper peninsula preferred.
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I don't have a clue that far north, but I can recommend a few in the Grand Rapids/Muskegon areas.
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Thanks SANDVIPR thats a little to far for me.
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if you have beefy do it he will start by torching the first 4 cyls off and work from there
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I'd like to keep all 8 cylinders if possible.
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My buddy just had his race engine built by some place near Bay city. I can ask him for the info if you want.
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if you have beefy do it he will start by torching the first 4 cyls off and work from there
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You like making 4.3's?
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figuratively yes, yes he does
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Oh yeah I remember now. It was about getting my engine work done. All I know is I don't really want a 4.3 in my truck so hacking off two cylinders isn't really what I am looking for. Thanks though Beefy.

The bottom would be stock but would like it refreshed and cylinders would be bored over. Flat top pistons and cam installed. Would need a set of vortec heads rebuilt to my spec.

Its a very simple build but I want it done right. Here are the 2014 rules.
http://www.usacracing.com/assets/fil...StockTruck.pdf

18. ENGINE
"Stock" means the part or assembly in its "as cast" configuration as delivered and used on U.S. model without modifications. All casting and/or part numbers must be visible.
Allowed:
A. Engine must be in stock location on stock mounts for a V-8.
B. One engine movement limiter-cable, chain etc.
C. Strengthening of the motor mount brackets by additional material only.
D. Motors other than those listed may be used once approved by TORC Series Tech.
Not Allowed:
A. Any modification not specifically listed.
B. Mounting plates.
19. BLOCK AND CRANKSHAFT
Approved standard OEM, as cast iron production block.
Blocks approved by TORC Series are:
GM 350,
Mopar.360
Ford 351 Windsor.
A. Stock cast or forged steel crankshaft or OEM aftermarket replacement only.
B. Rod journal grind is open but all the following engine rules must be adhered to.
Required:
A. 3/4 inch inspection hole in the side of the oil pan, in line with crankshaft journal and crankshaft casting number.
B. Stock block deck height within .020 of specification.
C. Maximum 370 cubic inch displacement.
D. Engines must be able to be sealed once they are pumped. One head bolt, one intake manifold bolt, one oil pan bolt on each side of the oil pan must be drilled to allow sealing.
Allowed:
A. Blue printing and balancing.
B. Using studs rather than bolts.
C. Oil pan windage trays.
D. High volume or pressure oil pump.
E. Auxiliary engine oil cooler.
F. Fan for oil cooler.
G. Remote oil filters.
H. Harmonic balancer open, any manufacturer. Must be SFI 18.1 approved
Not Allowed:
A. Any kind of modification specification not listed above.
B. Crankshafts that have been knife edged or lightened.
C. Dry sumps or external wet sump pumps are not allowed.
20. CYLINDER HEADS AND VALVES
A. Standard production, as cast, iron heads that matches the block with the casting numbers clearly visible.
B. GM may use any OEM production head with a maximum intake valve diameter of 1.94, maximum exhaust valve diameter of 1.60. No angle plug or bowtie heads allowed.
C. Chrysler may use any OEM production head including the magnum head part # P5007086. W-2 heads not allowed. Maximum intake valve diameter of 1.88, maximum exhaust valve diameter of 1.60.
D. Ford may use any OEM production head, GT40, GT40P or World Products Roush 180 part No. 5303, Maximum intake valve diameter of 1.94, and maximum exhaust valve diameter of 1.60.
Allowed:
A. After market valve springs provided the stock outside dimension is retained.
B. Three angle valve jobs.
C. Single 45 degree cut on the valve face.
D. Valve guide material unlimited.
E. Stainless steel valves.
F. Screw in studs and guide plates.
G. One breather per valve cover.
H. Machining of head to accommodate valve size listed above.
Not Allowed:
A. Any modifications of the cylinder head not specifically listed above.
B. Angle milling/cutting of the block or cylinder heads.
C. Bowl cutting.
D. Titanium or composite valves.
21. PISTONS AND CONNECTING RODS
Allowed:
A. Flat top or dished, stock or OEM replacement piston only. Cast or forged pistons.
B. Steel rods with stock dimensions only: gm-5.791, Mopar-6.123, And Ford-5954.
C. Removal of casting flash from connecting rod, shot peen of connecting rod.
Not Allowed:
A. Any modifications not specifically listed above.
B. Titanium, stainless, aluminum, H beam etc rods.
C. No domed or notched pistons.
D. Piston must remain at or below deck height at TDC.
22. CAM AND LIFTERS
Stock type cast flat tappet camshafts with a maximum valve lift as measured at the valve of .500. Stock lifter bore size.
Allowed:
A. Other cam grind specifications are unrestricted.
B. Full roller rockers, stud mount only.
C. After market direct replacement timing chain and gears.
Not Allowed:
A. Any modifications not specifically listed above.
B. Roller mushroom type lifers.
C. Gear or belt drive.
D. Shaft type rocker unless OEM.
23. INTAKE MANIFOLD
Allowed:
A. As cast-Edelbrock intake: part number, GM 5001 or 2716, Mopar 5076, Ford 5081.
B. Match porting by the removal of material only, within the last inch of the runner only.
C. Addition of return water port in rear of intake manifold allowed, but must be approved by TORC Series Tech.
D. Machining of intake to match Vortec head.
E. Standard design gaskets only.
F. Drilling of head to install intake allowed, must be approved by TORC Series Tech.
Not Allowed:
A. Any other modification not specifically listed above.
B. No devices between the carburetor and the intake manifold, designed to increase or redirect airflow will be allowed.
24. CARBURETOR
Required:
A. One two-barrel model number 0-4412 and one combination restrictor plate/spacer assembly with two 1.375 bores. Must be used with standard size gaskets only. This unit is available though TORC Series tech only!
B. Fuel pump- mechanical only in the stock location
Allowed:
Removal of choke plate.
Not Allowed:
A. Any modification in/to the throttle bore.
B. Any modification to the TORC Series restrictor plate.
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The power is gonna be in the piston/ring pack and cam.....don't go cheap there.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 03:49 PM   #15
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The power is gonna be in the piston/ring pack and cam.....don't go cheap there.
Thanks frdboy.
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http://www.mccarthyperformance.com/Services.html

You can try this guy. He has built a bunch motors for locals here.
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You can try this guy. He has built a bunch motors for locals here.
Thanks. Trying to get as local as possible.
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Bill Plain is a legend, and he has recently relocated/semi retired to vanderbilt. If you meet him, you will look no further. Built 5 or 6 for me in the last 15 years. Class act, top notch.
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Bill Plain is a legend, and he has recently relocated/semi retired to vanderbilt. If you meet him, you will look no further. Built 5 or 6 for me in the last 15 years. Class act, top notch.
Thanks Marshall. I will look into this guy.
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The power is gonna be in the piston/ring pack and cam.....don't go cheap there.
I agree here. There's no way I'd be getting any off the shelf cam for this setup. I'd be contacting some well known cam grinders and get something built.
What heads are you looking at using?
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