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Old January 20th, 2014, 12:17 PM   #1
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What's the difference between the tie rod cylinder and the welded cylinder style ram assist rams? I'm looking for either a 1.5 or 1.75 x 8 ram to finish up my setup. I haven't found many makers for these in the tie rod style, mostly are 2x8 or bigger. But there's many different companies that make the welded style like PSC.....
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Old January 20th, 2014, 01:50 PM   #2
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When you say "tierod" are you talking about heims at both ends? And "welded" meaning fixed non-heim ends? Or do you mean welded heims on both ends instead of adjustable ones?

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Old January 20th, 2014, 02:15 PM   #3
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http://www.pscmotorsports.com/motors...-cylinder.html

This has everything to get it done and not have to scrounge for parts.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraul...S-9-7258-8.axd

This would work also but the ends are not adjustable.
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Old January 20th, 2014, 02:16 PM   #4
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I think he's talking about the cylinders that are held together with the threaded rods and the other style.
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Old January 20th, 2014, 02:20 PM   #5
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Ahh, forgot about those, than use the welded / heim cylinder for sure. And knowing Hoss he's looking for the cheapest shit he can find.
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Old January 20th, 2014, 02:25 PM   #6
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Tie rod cylinders are generally a lesser duty requirement.
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Old January 20th, 2014, 02:51 PM   #7
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I think he's talking about the cylinders that are held together with the threaded rods and the other style.
Yes this is what in talking about. I didn't know if there was a difference from the PSC style or the style that is square @ both ends. Someone told me that the PSC style isn't rebuild able compared to the one that you can take the end off.

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Ahh, forgot about those, than use the welded / heim cylinder for sure. And knowing Hoss he's looking for the cheapest shit he can find.
Now why ya gotta be like that!! But your so true, PSC is not cheap compared to the ones I looked at the other day @ tractor supply & surplus supply!
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Old January 20th, 2014, 03:10 PM   #8
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if you find one that is normal stock for TSC, you can always pick up a replacement as long as you are close to a TSC

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Old January 21st, 2014, 12:00 PM   #9
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So this is what it comes down to, since they don't make the tie rod style in that size....
PSC...1.75x8
http://www.pscmotorsports.com/motors...-cylinder.html
PSC...1.50x8
http://www.pscmotorsports.com/motors...-cylinder.html
Surplus Supply...1.5x8
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraul...E-9-7706-8.axd
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraul...S-9-7258-8.axd

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For an assist cylinder, I would stay away from a tie rod style. They are bigger & harder to package.
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None of your links work.
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Old January 21st, 2014, 12:48 PM   #12
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My assist on my 79 bronco was a TSC 2x8. Worked fine.
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Old January 21st, 2014, 01:16 PM   #13
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My assist on my 79 bronco was a TSC 2x8. Worked fine.
Guys @ PSC said that a 2x8 is gonn be to big and laggy for just ram assist.
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I used a tsc 2x8 to start out with and it was slow as balls one way and slower that shit the other.
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Old January 21st, 2014, 02:09 PM   #15
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Links fixed and my friend used the tsc 2x8 on his m37 w/ full hydro and seamed to work well but it was a completely different setup than yours bigblockblazer
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I used it in full hydro mode only and it was slow.
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So this is what it comes down to, since they don't make the tie rod style in that size....
PSC...1.75x8
http://www.pscmotorsports.com/motors...-cylinder.html
PSC...1.50x8
http://www.pscmotorsports.com/motors...-cylinder.html
Surplus Supply...1.5x8
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraul...E-9-7706-8.axd
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraul...S-9-7258-8.axd
I'm no expert, but the last one seems like the best bang for the buck route, assuming you have an inexpensive source for the brackets and hardware.
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I used the surplus center heim end style 1.5x8 for hydro assist off a Plumbed box. Works great. Never noticed any lag but I'm not auto crossing with it:)
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I have a psc ram sitting in the closet for my hydro assist on the jeep, now I'm wondering if it will be fast or slow, my full hydro on my bdmt is fast, and for that I used a ram and orbital from a combine... The ram used standard style looking one ton-ish tie rods...
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Psc are rebuildable and looks for a round $20 for a seal kit http://www.pscmotorsports.com/motors...ts?cat=465&p=2

Keep in mind a tsc ram, or surplus ram will more then likely be easier to just buy another new one instead of trying to search and track down the correct seals for it
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