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Old February 24th, 2014, 08:09 AM   #41
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Well the engine and electrical has been very well waterproofed to mil810 standards... Not worried about that ... And I figure it doesn't hurt to let the engine breathe as much as I can... In ultra 4 races you Often see rigs driving around without the hoods because they were having cooling issues... Doesn't hurt to have as much airflow as possible
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Well the engine and electrical has been very well waterproofed to mil810 standards... Not worried about that ... And I figure it doesn't hurt to let the engine breathe as much as I can... In ultra 4 races you Often see rigs driving around without the hoods because they were having cooling issues... Doesn't hurt to have as much airflow as possible

If this is going to be used only for ultra4 races them you should be fine. Just kidding...mostly. Looks like you're making some progress. Looking forward to seeing it when it's finished.
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What length coilovers did you put up front? Can you post more pictures of the 5.3 in position with driveshaft clearance and skid plate/oil pan location please?
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If this is going to be used only for ultra4 races them you should be fine. Just kidding...mostly. Looks like you're making some progress. Looking forward to seeing it when it's finished.
Ha ha no I'm just trying to do everything is good as I can and it's been very helpful to get feedback from here and other forums!!!
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What length coilovers did you put up front? Can you post more pictures of the 5.3 in position with driveshaft clearance and skid plate/oil pan location please?
It's got 14 inch coil overs front and rear and I will try to post up some photos when I get a chance but I leave for Colorado tonight so it may be a week or so!
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Put a few more braces and gussets in today







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There's no reason to have to cut the hood for 14" shocks but it's all personal preference.
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There's no reason to have to cut the hood for 14" shocks but it's all personal preference.
Not sure how closely you have been following this but the fenders are moved up 4 inches from the stock position for a super low center of gravity and 4 inches more of up travel... So in order to cycle correctly I do need to put the shocks through the hood!
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There's no reason to have to cut the hood for 14" shocks but it's all personal preference.
That's a pretty broad statement to be making. That's like claiming you can't break a Dana 60 with 35" tires. It all depends on ride height, shock location, shock height, and travel settings.
I agree he didn't have to based on the pics, but I prefer that look too. I run 14" shocks, but mine are ProFender, which run longer than most. I also have mine set up pretty low with maximum uptravel, and even with a 1" body lift I have to trim the hood. I *might* have been able to drop them down enough to clear the hood, but then the bottom spring cups would get dangerously close to the kingpin caps under flex.
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Here's how I braced between the floor plate and lower body crossmember underneath the A pillar. It's just a piece of tube to take the load. There are other ways to do it, but this is the basic idea to transfer the load to the rigid plate, rather than just hoping the sheetmetal doesn't crush together.
that front cage mount would do nothing in a roll over
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I quoted the wrong picture, but all it is going to do is tear right off the frame
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that front cage mount would do nothing in a roll over
I'm not a fan of how horizontal the frame tie-in bar is, but that's as flat as I could get it. Some creative gusseting will help that. I don't see a problem with the rest of it, it's supported and transferring the load as it should. Running some alighment plugs inside the sleeve would help too. It's not ideal, but it'd sure as hell "do something in a roll over"

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I quoted the wrong picture,
I figured as much. I agree, the horizontal mount isn't great. But between the body mounts and cage tie ins, I think it adds quite a bit of strength and support. But I do agree that it needs more gusseting so it doesn't act as a pivot point in a hard roll. That's an easy addition for the owner of the rig(he hasn't even finish welded the fenders or painted the cage yet, so plenty of time to beef it up before wheeling)

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That's a pretty broad statement to be making. That's like claiming you can't break a Dana 60 with 35" tires. It all depends on ride height, shock location, shock height, and travel settings.
I agree he didn't have to based on the pics, but I prefer that look too. I run 14" shocks, but mine are ProFender, which run longer than most. I also have mine set up pretty low with maximum uptravel, and even with a 1" body lift I have to trim the hood. I *might* have been able to drop them down enough to clear the hood, but then the bottom spring cups would get dangerously close to the kingpin caps under flex.
I'm fairly familiar with LCG Tj's It's not a stretch to get them under the hood unless, maybe, you have emulsion shocks which are hella long. You can see from his picture that he only needed to cut the hood because of how he mounted the tabs on the hoops. You did it out of preference. Some people say it looks cool. Some people say it looks like poor planning. It's all personal preference.
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I'm fairly familiar with LCG Tj's It's not a stretch to get them under the hood unless, maybe, you have emulsion shocks which are hella long. You can see from his picture that he only needed to cut the hood because of how he mounted the tabs on the hoops. You did it out of preference. Some people say it looks cool. Some people say it looks like poor planning. It's all personal preference.
Well I wouldn't to say it's poor planning... Ha ha, I do like the way it looks... But in this case it was Because that's the place where I wanted the top of the coilovers to mount... And I couldn't have moved the hoops any closer to the engine or I wouldn't be able to pull the engine... If I mounted the coilovers farther outboard I would've had tire clearance issues
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Finish setting up the rear end put the battery in... Almost ready for paint!



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Are your coilover mounts welded to the inner C's? What material are those? No wonder you had to go through the hood Always good to see something out driving I'd like to see how you routed your front driveshaft and engine mounts/skids if you get a chance
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Yes I did mount to the C's in order to give it the widest stance it is a CRD 60 housing & the C's are gigantic... I have a friend that did this on his buggy and I was hesitant and he has proven to me that it works very well...

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