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Old November 29th, 2013, 08:05 PM   #41
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That depends. I have had to repair many many vehicles that were done by an "installer" that got towed to me for a no start or running like crap. Scotch Locks under the hood....in Michigan....
Geez I hate those things, all they are good for is cutting the wire in half- slowly,
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Old November 29th, 2013, 09:19 PM   #42
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I looked into doing one myself after reading this thread, but from what i see online they want $125+ and i can get one installed in my tahoe for $175 for a lifetime warranty.
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Old November 29th, 2013, 09:57 PM   #43
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some cars are not hard, others are a pita. Even in my 98 grand cherokee for example. The remote start is a quick 30 min hookup. But to get the rest of the system to work, keyless entry, alarm, lights, horn, it was a PITA. You can buy a discontinued CAN module for $150 to work the doors and factory alarm or figure a way to bypass it all. I chose the bypass as I'm cheap.

Other vehicles like GM will require Passcode2 and other ignition kill defeats. Then you get into transponder keys where you have to get a spare key cut and programed (sometime not very easy or cheap). So I guess it all depends on what you are putting it in. I am very comfortable in vehicle electronics so I have more confidence in doing it myself rather then giving it to some guy that may just do a hack job on my vehicles.
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Old November 29th, 2013, 10:26 PM   #44
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I might have to try that one before she gets a job
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Old November 30th, 2013, 08:23 AM   #45
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I am very comfortable in vehicle electronics so I have more confidence in doing it myself rather then giving it to some guy that may just do a hack job on my vehicles.
That's the biggest thing. When it comes to electrical, I would rather do it myself then let someone else cut corners on it. I know when I install one, I take WAY longer than an installer would take, but when it's done, it will look as close to factory as it can and will be done right.

Every time I see one done at an installer they don't even cut down the long wires. They just wad the extra 15 feet of wire up and electrical tape it to 20 different things under the dash.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 09:16 AM   #46
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That's the biggest thing. When it comes to electrical, I would rather do it myself then let someone else cut corners on it. I know when I install one, I take WAY longer than an installer would take, but when it's done, it will look as close to factory as it can and will be done right.

Every time I see one done at an installer they don't even cut down the long wires. They just wad the extra 15 feet of wire up and electrical tape it to 20 different things under the dash.
Just like in anything else, you have great installers out there as well as hacks that call themselves installers. I agree I wouldn't take one anywhere that I didn't know the installer and the type of work he was capable of.
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Old November 30th, 2013, 09:43 PM   #47
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This. I have probably installed 1000 or more DEI remote starts. Although I have been out of the game for a few years now, they were always the easiest to install and program. They are reliable and getting replacement remotes is usually pretty easy.
so did you use kits? Any kind of special training?
Or just something that was part of the job and you learned as you went?
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so did you use kits? Any kind of special training?
Or just something that was part of the job and you learned as you went?
The point of my other post was that a "diy kit" as people are calling them, is no different from any other remote start. The DIY label on the box is just a sales tool. As far as training I got my MECP certification a long time ago, but in all honesty MECP certs mean nothing. Some of the worst installers I have met have them. Once a couple of big box retailers started forking over the cash to make sure their installers were certified it had no meaning. It is on the job training with experienced installers that really teaches you, not that you can't learn on your own. If you have a good understanding of car electrical systems and how relays work you can install a remote start.
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Old December 1st, 2013, 02:34 AM   #49
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I just had to help rewire an alarm/remote start in a buddies civic, and good god someone EFFED that thing up, I didnt have the heart to tell him just how bad it was as he just bought the car. The brain, transponder bypass, and 100' of wire was just wedged right up above the brake pedal..... guess what happened after a few too many potholes....

I've hooked up a few, its simple, just make sure you have good connections, and mount things that need to be mounted, not just bouncing around (main reason the brains break)
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Was doing some checking around and there is aplace in grand rapids called mickey shorr that will install a viper kits for remote start and keyless entry for $129.99 Anyone have any experience with them or know of anyone else to call or check with?
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 02:34 PM   #51
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Was doing some checking around and there is aplace in grand rapids called mickey shorr that will install a viper kits for remote start and keyless entry for $129.99 Anyone have any experience with them or know of anyone else to call or check with?
Based on the couple wiring jobs I've seen done by Mickey Shorr I'd put their electrical abilities somewhere equivalent to Maaco's painting abilities.
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Based on the couple wiring jobs I've seen done by Mickey Shorr I'd put their electrical abilities somewhere equivalent to Maaco's painting abilities.
and is that good or bad lol...
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 03:00 PM   #53
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Was doing some checking around and there is aplace in grand rapids called mickey shorr that will install a viper kits for remote start and keyless entry for $129.99 Anyone have any experience with them or know of anyone else to call or check with?
Mickey shorr is abc warehouse. The one over here is not great, and good luck actually getting it for that price. Depending on the vehicle I would guess when you show up to have it done you will end up around $200.
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Any suggestion for a better place to check with. I want it done right
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 03:23 PM   #55
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Any suggestion for a better place to check with. I want it done right
I don't know alot around GR. Along the lakeshore Tech Audio in Grand Haven and Bakker in Muskegon have pretty good reputations and you should get an honest phone estimate from them. Hopefully someone in the GR area can recommend someone closer to you.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 03:25 PM   #56
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xtreme car audio on 28th street is reputable, but be prepared to pay for that reputation.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 04:03 PM   #57
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Well I called extreme and they quoted me 289 and I called tech audio and they said 317. Big differences from 129.
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You said you want it done right. That was their price of doing it right.

Is that all with the same brand remote starter? A quick search puts a decent viper starter around $200. Or are you just talking install fees? They usually give better prices if you buy the starter from them if that is the case.
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and i do. I figured something wasnt right with the $129 price but 300 is not in my budget to get it done ither. Zombh8r want to make some extra money lol?
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129 is the cost of the system. Then you have to pay of for the 50 - 100.00 vehicle bypass system, 89.99 install fee, then if you want the 2nd fob, another 75 bucks. I think I had my viper system installed at best buy a couple years ago and the system was on sale at 150ish and out the door was some where in the neighbor hood of 250~300 IIRC
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