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Old November 29th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #21
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The installers use DIY kits. And they will sell you just about whatever brand you want unless they are an install point for a particular brand. But you can still buy whatever they are installing and DIY.



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Old November 29th, 2013, 06:36 PM   #22
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I've heard there are plug and play kits available.
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Old November 29th, 2013, 06:37 PM   #23
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The DIY non DIY argument is kind of silly. Directed makes DIY kits as well as most remote start manufacturers. The DIY label and DVD is just a sales tool. Most of the ones I sold came back for me to install anyway.
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They are pretty much plug and play. But the contortion needed to get to some of the plugs are for a much younger man.

But I would avoid Bulldog like the plague.
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The DIY non DIY argument is kind of silly. Directed makes DIY kits as well as most remote start manufacturers. The DIY label and DVD is just a sales tool. Most of the ones I sold came back for me to install anyway.
It boils down to whether or not you 'want to'. After twisting myself around to get at the connections in a 1993 Dodge pickup, I decided I no longer wanted to.

Just like I will pay the extra $20 to have my oil changed to avoid the hassle.


However, this winter I am swapping in a 67 Pontiac OHC 6 and a TH200 4R into a 65 Chevy van and converting it to electronic ignition and fuel injection just for fun.

I just like to pick my battles.
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They don't work well for carbs, so I'm out. I also may be lazy, but I can brave the cold to start my rigs. Got to knock the snow off anyway unless there's a app for that now.
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They don't work well for carbs, so I'm out. I also may be lazy, but I can brave the cold to start my rigs. Got to knock the snow off anyway unless there's a app for that now.
Yes, your dishwasher has that app.
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So, I get to do it anyway.
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It boils down to whether or not you 'want to'. After twisting myself around to get at the connections in a 1993 Dodge pickup, I decided I no longer wanted to.

Just like I will pay the extra $20 to have my oil changed to avoid the hassle.


However, this winter I am swapping in a 67 Pontiac OHC 6 and a TH200 4R into a 65 Chevy van and converting it to electronic ignition and fuel injection just for fun.

I just like to pick my battles.
I totally understand. Whether you get a DIY kit or not all of the appropriate wires still need to be energized properly for it to function. All I was getting at is if you can hook up a diy remote start kit you can hook up a standard remote start. So dont get too hung up on the DIY label.

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Honestly, I didn't know Viper offered it as DIY, any time the wife wanted it I just had her take the car up and get it done.
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After looking at the installer link its best to pay to have it done. For me anyhow...
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Some things are just worth paying for. And this is from a dedicated cheapskate.
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After looking at the installer link its best to pay to have it done. For me anyhow...
I agree with you. I installed these for 15 years and would still just pay the extra to have it done on most newer cars. Older vehicles (like my TJ) I couldnt make myself pay somebody $150 for an install that only takes an hour or so. But some newer cars can take four or five hours even for an experienced installer.
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Yes, your dishwasher has that app.
My dishwasher told me she wished we had a dishwasher. I told her I already had one.

Good thing she laughed, because we bought a new set of plates today
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I totally understand. Whether you get a DIY kit or not all of the appropriate wires still need to be energized properly for it to function. All I was getting at is if you can hook up a diy remote start kit you can hook up a standard remote start. So dont get too hung up on the DIY label.
DIY or standard? Really? They are both the same thing....except you don't DIY a kit that you have someone else install.
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After looking at the installer link its best to pay to have it done. For me anyhow...
That depends. I have had to repair many many vehicles that were done by an "installer" that got towed to me for a no start or running like crap. Scotch Locks under the hood....in Michigan....
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DIY or standard? Really? They are both the same thing....except you don't DIY a kit that you have someone else install.
That is the point I was trying to make.
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My dishwasher told me she wished we had a dishwasher. I told her I already had one.

Good thing she laughed, because we bought a new set of plates today
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That depends. I have had to repair many many vehicles that were done by an "installer" that got towed to me for a no start or running like crap. Scotch Locks under the hood....in Michigan....
The trick is finding a good one. I bought a 99 Cherokee five years ago used with remote start and it still works. Never even had to put batteries in it.
Thats saying alot with Chryslers shitting wiring.
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Its really not that hard to do. They have the diagrams online that tell you what wire does what and where its located. It takes around an hour to two hours to make the connections.
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