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Old November 22nd, 2013, 03:37 PM   #21
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I know it's not better. I just want to know why he thinks it is
Because it's Performance Center and has an unfluted cylinder.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 03:40 PM   #22
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Because it's Performance Center and has an unfluted cylinder.
I don't like the unfluted cylinder. Looks cheap IMO. No way I would pay that price either. Not for that gun anyway.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 03:43 PM   #23
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I don't like the unfluted cylinder. Looks cheap IMO. No way I would pay that price either. Not for that gun anyway.
Unfluted cylinder is actually better. It's stronger and can handle a way hotter load.

The Performance Centers also have tuned actions and triggers.
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No it isn't. That fucker is ultra lightweight. That's made for backpacking in bear country and the only time you're supposed to fire it is in defense of your life.

You won't want to fire it at any other time
The trail boss is a 3" barrel, any .44 that short isn't a plinking gun.

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I know it's not better. I just want to know why he thinks it is
Hand assembled, tuned action, tuned trigger, a cyl made to handle a hotter load. Have you ever owned anything that came out of S&W performance center, or even shot something by them? They are a far nicer firearm than the run of the mill mass produced stuff from smith. They are a handcrafted gun and very reasonable in price.
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The trail boss is a 3" barrel, any .44 that short isn't a plinking gun.



Hand assembled, tuned action, tuned trigger, a cyl made to handle a hotter load. Have you ever owned anything that came out of S&W performance center, or even shot something by them? They are a far nicer firearm than the run of the mill mass produced stuff from smith. They are a handcrafted gun and very reasonable in price.


I just have a preference for the heavy revolvers. Not a fan of the ultralights at all.
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I just have a preference for the heavy revolvers. Not a fan of the ultralights at all.
I'm not sure what his reason for wanting a small .44. It's a horrible carry gun and sucks to shoot. There aren't many reasons I can think of to own one. If I was in the market for such a weapon I would deffently buy the one I posted. Far better gun with and not much more money.
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The only purpose a revolver like that serves is for defense against dangerous big game.

I carry my Colt Trooper Mk III for two and four legged predators and it's a way better option for that purpose.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 05:07 PM   #28
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The only purpose a revolver like that serves is for defense against dangerous big game.

I carry my Colt Trooper Mk III for two and four legged predators and it's a way better option for that purpose.
Haven't seen much dangerous big game in Michigan. Unless you consider Black bear to fit in the category which I would not.
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Haven't seen much dangerous big game in Michigan. Unless you consider Black bear to fit in the category which I would not.
Exactly.

That's why I have a .357 Magnum loaded with JHPs instead of a .44 Magnum loaded with hard cast.
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Yeah but that doesn't make your dick as big as a .44 snubbie.

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I just have a preference for the heavy revolvers. Not a fan of the ultralights at all.
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I don't not like light revolvers
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The 629 PC you guys have been referencing is not an ultralite. It is Stainless Steel, just like the trailboss, and almost identical weight. The difference is 3/8" of ported barrel.

I'd much rather have the 629PC than the Trailboss.
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That's it.

I'm calling shenanigans on this whole post.
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The 629 PC you guys have been referencing is not an ultralite. It is Stainless Steel, just like the trailboss, and almost identical weight. The difference is 3/8" of ported barrel.

I'd much rather have the 629PC than the Trailboss.
Why as 8pt said he knows its not a better gun. Why would someone want something tuned and hand built over a production run gun for almost the same price?
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mmm 629!

FYI all 629's are stainless...
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 03:07 PM   #36
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Unfluted cylinder is actually better. It's stronger and can handle a way hotter load.

The Performance Centers also have tuned actions and triggers.
I never knew that about the unfluted cylinder. Good to know!

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I'm not sure what his reason for wanting a small .44. It's a horrible carry gun and sucks to shoot. There aren't many reasons I can think of to own one. If I was in the market for such a weapon I would deffently buy the one I posted. Far better gun with and not much more money.
The trail boss wouldn't be a gun to carry. I am looking for one just to say I have one. I think they are beautiful guns, and I love the "Trail Boss" engraving on it. I know there are many more guns that are far more collectible, but for some reason I am in love with the trail boss and have wanted one ever since I discovered it.

And I did a little research on the PC guns. I had never heard about them before. The quality is much better, and you get more goodies with them, but you also pay for it. I meant the trail boss was a better gun than the one you posted because it is bigger and heavier. Quality wise, the gun you posted is better.
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I never knew that about the unfluted cylinder. Good to know!



The trail boss wouldn't be a gun to carry. I am looking for one just to say I have one. I think they are beautiful guns, and I love the "Trail Boss" engraving on it. I know there are many more guns that are far more collectible, but for some reason I am in love with the trail boss and have wanted one ever since I discovered it.

And I did a little research on the PC guns. I had never heard about them before. The quality is much better, and you get more goodies with them, but you also pay for it. I meant the trail boss was a better gun than the one you posted because it is bigger and heavier. Quality wise, the gun you posted is better.

The trail boss is .4 oz heavier if the both have unfluted cyls. With a fluted cyl the trail boss is lighter. The trail boss has a 3" barrel and the 629 I posted has a 2.625". There is nothing the PC gun doesn't beat the trail boss on. If you want a gun "to say you have one". Get a quality firearm you can be proud to measure your dick with. Used PC guns are easily the best value in all S&W handguns. The price drop from new is good and the added value o them is amazing.

I don't care what you get or if you even own a gun. You said you couldn't find one I found you a much better gun that will be within a few hindered of the one you want.
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I never knew that about the unfluted cylinder. Good to know!



The trail boss wouldn't be a gun to carry. I am looking for one just to say I have one. I think they are beautiful guns, and I love the "Trail Boss" engraving on it. I know there are many more guns that are far more collectible, but for some reason I am in love with the trail boss and have wanted one ever since I discovered it.

And I did a little research on the PC guns. I had never heard about them before. The quality is much better, and you get more goodies with them, but you also pay for it. I meant the trail boss was a better gun than the one you posted because it is bigger and heavier. Quality wise, the gun you posted is better.

Don't believe the "unfluted cylinder is stronger" thing for a moment, it is simply NOT TRUE!!!! That is bad/wrong info. Just wanted to set the record straight before anyone got them self into trouble trying to "hot rod" a Smith and Wesson model (6)29 Regards, Steve
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Don't believe the "unfluted cylinder is stronger" thing for a moment, it is simply NOT TRUE!!!! That is bad/wrong info. Just wanted to set the record straight before anyone got them self into trouble trying to "hot rod" a Smith and Wesson model (6)29 Regards, Steve
Show scientific proof of one vs the other, including messuered cylinder pressures.
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Don't believe the "unfluted cylinder is stronger" thing for a moment, it is simply NOT TRUE!!!! That is bad/wrong info. Just wanted to set the record straight before anyone got them self into trouble trying to "hot rod" a Smith and Wesson model (6)29 Regards, Steve


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